Leandro Lucarella wrote: > Russel Winder, el 22 de noviembre a las 19:10 me escribiste: >> On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 16:41 +0000, Manfred_Nowak wrote: >> > Russel Winder wrote: >> > >> > > but it has come to the end of its useful life >> > >> > why. I ask because I just realized, that llvm still uses it. >> >> For really small systems compiled on a single platform, Make can still >> "cut it". But being an external DSL, the separation of relationship >> specification notation and action notation, and especially the platform >> specific action notation lead to insurmountable problems. Go is trying >> to persevere with Make but the cracks show readily. Also Make shows the >> cracks for large projects, it doesn't really scale. > > False. > >> Autotools was a brave attempt to make Make make big projects for >> Posix-compliant platforms. CMake is a bold attempt to ensure Make > > Automake is one of the biggest mistakes *ever*. > >> handles things in a more platform independent way. Autotools is, I >> think also reaching the end of its useful life -- it was an immense bit >> of m4 hackery, and deserves respect, just as Make does. > > There is no point of comparison between Make and Autotools, Autotools is > a huge hack. Make is limited in scope, but it does what it's supposed to > do extremely well. > >> The alternative to all this is to use an internal DSL, i.e. use a >> programming language directly. SCons and Waf plough this furrow -- to >> name but the main two in a C, C++, D, LaTeX context. SCons and Waf both >> suffer some serious issues, but they are the current market leaders for >> a more modern system. > > I tried quite a few build systems for a big project (cmake, waf, aap, > scons, omake) and all had their own issues and specially limitations. > Eventually I decided to learn Make seriously, wrote a good Makefile and > never looked back... > > Make can be very hard to learn, specially because people tend to use it > wrongly and there are very few good examples and tutorials/docs. > > PS: I'm really talking about GMake :) >
Wow, GMake is almost a full blown programming language! If you have one of those few good examples handy, would you mind sharing a link?
