On Monday, 25 May 2020 at 13:43:07 UTC, Paul Backus wrote:
On Monday, 25 May 2020 at 13:22:36 UTC, Petar Kirov [ZombineDev] wrote:
On Monday, 25 May 2020 at 13:14:51 UTC, Petar Kirov [ZombineDev] wrote:

It may be true (of course modulo meta-programming) that it doesn't make a difference for the calling code, but I personally want have the guarantees that a function that I'm

doesn't make a difference for the calling code, but personally
I want [to] have the guarantees that a function that I'm

calling is truly @safe (it doesn't contain or call any @trusted code, transitively, nor it calls any @safe code, which access global variables initialized by @system static/module constructors).

This is very far from a rigorous definition of "strong @safe-ty" - but I hope it's just enough for the casual reader to understand my intention.

I'm sure this is reasonable for your use-case, but I hope you can recognize that this definition of safety is far too narrow to be suitable for a general-purpose programming language (which D purports to be). Most people would like their @safe code to be able to do I/O, for example, despite the fact that it necessarily involves calling @system code under the hood.

I don't want to change the definition of @safe in D, but would rather like if D supported @strongSafe, that interested people like me could opt into. I know that worded like this it may sound like too narrow feature to add to the language (or at least not having favorable complexity/use cases ratio). So instead, I'd like to have transitive UDAs [1], a feature that has been requested by many, for various use cases ;)

[1]: Basically I want to be able to implement function attributes like @nogc or nothrow in user-space, but that's a long way from now, as first, we need to be able to introspect function bodies.

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