On Wednesday, 6 July 2022 at 14:30:07 UTC, Paulo Pinto wrote:
On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 12:34:57 UTC, ryuukk_ wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 05:30:10 UTC, Andrej Mitrovic wrote:
On Sunday, 3 July 2022 at 08:46:31 UTC, Mike Parker wrote:
You can find the final draft of the high-level goals for the
D programming language at the following link:
https://github.com/dlang/vision-document
Under 'Memory safety':
Allow the continued use of garbage collection as the default
memory management strategy without impact. The GC is one of
D's strengths, and we should not "throw the baby out with
the bath water".
Under 'Phobos and DRuntime':
@nogc as much as possible.
Aren't these the polar opposites of each other? The GC is one
of D's strengths, yet we should avoid it as much as possible
in the standard library.
Then it's not part of D's strengths.
GC is one of D's strength because it is optional, not making
core APIs bing-your-own-memory-allocation-strategy through
nogc or allocators, is making it no longer optional, which is
no longer a strength imo
You don't want GC when you do microcontroller development, so
as a result core APIs (most of them) becomes useless, moving
forward that should make the story better for everyone
Which becomes a strength again
Feel free to consider it a strength, when in reality it is a
flaw against established market players.
https://www.microej.com/
https://www.wildernesslabs.co/
https://www.ptc.com/en/products/developer-tools/perc
https://www.aicas.com/wp/products-services/jamaicavm/
https://www.astrobe.com/
People also use nodejs and npm, what is your point?
If you invest in the future you must take the pragmatic approach
and give options
Those are not Oracle's products, companies took the JVM for what
it is as a foundation and built their products
They haven't picked the default Oracle JDK and the default
concurrent GC
D should enable similar stories with what it has and can provide,
read on the challenges TinyGO faced, if D provides the tools for
companies to experiment with it, with a proper set of efficient
and minimal Core APIs, that alone makes it a proper and more
efficient alternative solution
