On 08/05/2011 12:59, Nick Sabalausky wrote:
"Nick Sabalausky"<a@a.a> wrote in message
news:iq2g72$ngp$1...@digitalmars.com...
Aggghhhh!!! God damnnit, I officially fucking hate linux now... (not that
I'm a win, mac or bsd fan, but whatever...)
I temporarily gave up trying to actually get ahold of an old distro, so I
tried the other angles (not counting just simply *wishing* it was like win
and I could just copy the damn binary over to another linux box...nooo,
that would be too simple for a unix-style system):
I got my web host to switch me to a server that has 32-bit libs installed
(a pain in and of itself because I had to coordinate with a client to find
a convenient downtime, and then I ended up needing to change my domain's
DNS entires, so now my whole domain's down for a couple days)...And it
make no difference. So I guess in my particular case it wasn't a
32-bit/64-bit issue at all (or maybe there still would have been that
problem too, I dunno).
So I went to try uClibc:
I started my Linux box...and it decides to hang mid-startup. So I reboot
and at least this time the dumb thing finishes booting (I had problems
with linux randomly breaking for no apperent reason ten years ago with
Mandrake and Red Hat. I can't believe it's still happening now).
Anyway, at the uClibc site, I saw the "simple steps" here:
http://uclibc.org/toolchains.html and thought "Uhh, hell no, not if I
don't have to" and went to the link for the pre-built verison instead. The
link was broken. Then the page says those are really old versions anyway.
Great :/
So I go through the steps: I get to the part where I download buildroot.
Copy/paste the link over to my linux box...and discover that Synergy+ has
suddenly decided it no longer feels like offering the "shared clipboard"
feature that always worked before.
Ok, so I type the URL into my linux box manually, download buildroot,
unpack it...so far so good...and follow the instruction to run "make
menuconfig"...BARF. It fails with some error about ncurses being missing,
and that I should get ncurses-devel. "sudo apt-get install ncurses-devel":
Can't find package. "sudo apt-get install ncurses": Can't find package.
"sudo apt-get install fuck-shit-cock": Can't find package.
Google "ncurses deb package". Actually found it. Download. Run...You ready
for this? Here's the message: "Error: A later version is already
installed." SERIOUSLY?!
This is the point where I would normally say "fuck this shit", but the
thought of continuing to use PHP (even if it is via Haxe) is enough to
keep me bashing my head against this wall. Next stop: See if I can get
ahold of *some* version of CentOS and see if using that in a VM will
manage to work. (And rip Kubuntu off my Linux box and see if I can replace
it with Debian+XFCE. How is it possible that GNOME and KDE were both
fairly ok ten years ago, at least as far as I can remember, but the latest
versions of both are complete shit? And then there's that iOS garbage that
Ubuntu is moving to now (The one main thing I've always disliked about
Ubuntu is their incompresensible Apple-envy, which only seems to be
increasing). And fuck, the latest KDE actually makes the Win7 UI seem good
(at least the Win7 UI actually *works* and has some semblance of
consistency, even as obnoxious as it is), and I could have sworn that KDE
never used to be so completely broken before. Or broken at all, for that
matter. Which is too bad, because Dolphin actually shows some promise...at
least when it isn't doing the
random-horizontal-scrolling-for-no-apparent-reason dance.)
Yay! I've just had some success! I managed to find this:
http://vault.centos.org/
Which has all the CentOS ISOs. (You'd think I would have had an easier time
finding that URL...)
I downloaded 4.2 (picked pretty much at random), installed it in VirtualBox,
compiled a trivial test C program in the included GCC, uploaded that to the
server, and it worked! :)
Next step: Install DMD on this CentOS VM and try for a D cgi...
And then later, I may try 4.7, see if that'll work for me too. And I still
have another web host I need to get CGI working on (although that one has
some pretty bad support, so I'm a little nervous about that). But it's
looking good so far. Finegrs crossed...
I'd be nice to not have to use a VM to compile, of course. But as long as I
can I have some way to do my server-side web stuff in D, and *completely*
sidestep the entire PHP runtime, then it'll certainly still be well worth
it.
It should work,but again is depends what your target platform is. It's
quite important that - Even on windows. At the company I am now
contracting for we compile the software agents using visual studio 2003
because later versions do not let the agent work with windows 98. This
is not just a Linux phenomenon.
Centos 4 is fairly new, and it's possible that your hosting providers
use older, even unsupported versions of distributions. Centos 3 might
have been a wiser bet. In any case centos 4.7 is a point release of 4.0
and as such there should be no breaking libc changes.
