On Saturday, 4 October 2014 at 08:15:51 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 10/3/2014 8:43 AM, Sean Kelly wrote:
My point, and I think Kagamin's as well, is that the entire plane is a system and the redundant internals are subsystems. They may not share memory, but they
are wired to the same sensors, servos, displays, etc.

No, they do not share sensors, servos, etc.

Gotcha. I imagine there are redundant displays in the cockpit as well, which makes sense. Thus the unifying factor in an airplane is the pilot. In a non-mannned system, it would be a control program (or a series of redundant control programs). So the system in this case includes the pilot.

Thus the point about shutting down the entire plane as a result of a small failure is fair.

That's a complete misunderstanding.

Right. So the system relies on the intelligence and training of the pilot for proper operation. Choosing which systems are in error vs. which are correct, etc. I still think an argument could be made that an entire airplane, pilot included, is analogous to a server infrastructure, or even a memory isolated program (the Erlang example).

My only point in all this is that while choosing the OS process is a good default when considering the potential scope of undefined behavior, it's not the only definition. The pilot misinterpreting sensor data and making a bad judgement call is equivalent to the failure of distinct subsystems corrupting the state of the entire system to the point where the whole thing fails. The sensors were communicating confusing information to the pilot, and his programming, as it were, was not up to the task of separating the good information from the bad.

Do you have any thoughts concerning my proposal in the "on errors" thread?

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