On Monday, 6 October 2014 at 13:54:05 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 10/6/14, 5:42 AM, Wyatt wrote:
On Sunday, 5 October 2014 at 16:14:18 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
No need to explain it here. When I speak about vision I mean
something
that anyone coming to dlang.org page or GitHub repo sees.
Something
that is explained in a bit more details, possibly with code
examples.
I know I am asking much but seeing quick reference for
"imagine this
stuff is implemented, this is how your program code will be
affected
and this is why it is a good thing" could have been huge deal.
Right now your rationales get lost in forum discussion threads
Jerry Christmas, this right here! Andrei, I know you keep
chanting "C++
and GC", and that's cool and all, but its also kind of
meaningless
because we can't read minds.
I understand. What would be a good venue for discussing such
topics? I thought the D language forum would be most
appropriate. -- Andrei
Sure, the newsgroup is a great place to discuss the minutiae of
specific features and figure out how they might be implemented
and what design tradeoffs need to be made. I think we've shown
we can disagree about the colour of any bikeshed of any shape and
construction at this point!
But in what venue do you feel comfortable holding the
easily-accessible public record of your intent for C++ support so
anyone wondering about this new mantra can get the summary of
what it means for them _as an end user_ without scouring the NG
and partially-piecing-it-together-but-not-really from a dozen
disparate posts?
To be succinct: how about an article?
We're not asking for a discussion in this case so much as some
frank sharing. D is going to have C++ support. That's cool and
compelling as a bare statement, but in what manner? What kinds
of things will this allow that were impossible before? How,
specifically, do you envision that to look? Can you give example
code that you would expect to work when it's "done"? What are
the drawbacks you believe forward engineers will have to watch
out for? It's okay to not have all the answers and explain that
there are parts that may not make it because of various reasons.
I somewhat feel that you're approaching this situation as if it
that were all quite obvious. Maybe it is to you? I don't know.
But I do know I'm not alone in the dark here. Please bring a
lamp.
-Wyatt
