On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 15:11:30 UTC, Tobias Pankrath
wrote:
On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 14:58:07 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 14:38:02 UTC, Tobias Pankrath
wrote:
As for Walter already saying "no" a lot, given how many
features D has, obviously one can still wish he went from
99% "no" to 99.5%. ;) You don't need to be around the D
community forever to feel that D still has too many features
that made it in.
Care to name a few and justify why exactly those features
should be gone?
No, as that's not really my problem. I was simply trying to
clarify the argument others have made, that the language seems
overstuffed and overwhelming, which I have experienced at
times but I'm not personally complaining about.>
It is a worthless claim to make that there is too much of
something, if you cannot come up with an concrete example.
"I've got that gut feeling, that" is not even remotely an
argument and just kills time of everyone in this discussion.
If we want to discuss the future of the language, it's totally
pointless to do it in an abstract way. “We need to make the
language more stable“ is not a goal or something, it is totally
unclear what that actually means, why this is important in the
first place, how we can say that we have accomplished it or
what we need to do to realise that goal.
I have no dog in this fight. I was merely pointing out to Walter
and Mike that it's possible to say "no" a lot and still have
others wish you had said "no" even more. :) There's no particular
feature that I wish wasn't there, though of course there are many
features that many wish were implemented or worked together
better, as deadalnix points out.
When Vic suggested a split into a stable core and an experimental
layer, I suggested documenting the perceived stability of various
features instead, so that users could have a guide for what
features might be more problematic without having to do a
deep-dive in bugzilla to figure it out for themselves. I didn't
back a split or have not suggested removing features.