On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 15:11:30 UTC, Tobias Pankrath wrote:
On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 14:58:07 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Friday, 19 December 2014 at 14:38:02 UTC, Tobias Pankrath wrote:
As for Walter already saying "no" a lot, given how many features D has, obviously one can still wish he went from 99% "no" to 99.5%. ;) You don't need to be around the D community forever to feel that D still has too many features that made it in.

Care to name a few and justify why exactly those features should be gone?

No, as that's not really my problem. I was simply trying to clarify the argument others have made, that the language seems overstuffed and overwhelming, which I have experienced at times but I'm not personally complaining about.>

It is a worthless claim to make that there is too much of something, if you cannot come up with an concrete example. "I've got that gut feeling, that" is not even remotely an argument and just kills time of everyone in this discussion.

If we want to discuss the future of the language, it's totally pointless to do it in an abstract way. “We need to make the language more stable“ is not a goal or something, it is totally unclear what that actually means, why this is important in the first place, how we can say that we have accomplished it or what we need to do to realise that goal.

I have no dog in this fight. I was merely pointing out to Walter and Mike that it's possible to say "no" a lot and still have others wish you had said "no" even more. :) There's no particular feature that I wish wasn't there, though of course there are many features that many wish were implemented or worked together better, as deadalnix points out.

When Vic suggested a split into a stable core and an experimental layer, I suggested documenting the perceived stability of various features instead, so that users could have a guide for what features might be more problematic without having to do a deep-dive in bugzilla to figure it out for themselves. I didn't back a split or have not suggested removing features.

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