On Monday, 2 February 2015 at 21:19:01 UTC, Zach the Mystic wrote:

I think std.experimental should essentially be its own library, with its own slot next to phobos on the github repo. I'm open to changing the name or something... but if we have both std.experimental *and* your new mars, what do you think is the real difference? How can std.experimental be "sort of" experimental, but really not, whereas mars is "really actually" experimental? Where is the cutoff line? How would anyone know whether they reached it or not?

Hard to admit but I thought about removal of std.experimental ;), then I tried to find a better solution (not sure I did). After all I don't want to make more enemies than I have.

So I got an idea that std.experimental can be adopted for the piloting new modules into Phobos when approved to be a standard.

After Wikipedia:
"A pilot project refers to an initial roll-out of a system into production"

My attitude is that any given module in std.experimental should simply indicate its current level stability at the top of its documentation - full disclosure about where it is from, say, 0 to 95%, (with anything above that already assumed qualified for std proper).

Yes, the drafting stage can have many sub-stages, but I didn't want to complicate the initial proposal too much and risk both low chance of the approval and later, inability of proper implementation. I learned that there can be taken only limited steps at once.

I'd even make one more point, that all current phobos modules known to be in need of revamping be copied wholesale in their current forms to std.experimental, with the top documentation saying, "This is the experimental version of the old std.xxx, which needs *your* help with its redesign and implementation. Feel free to break the current API by improving it. This is *not* currently considered a stable module."

Haha, let's not lose our nerves :) It's not that bad. Moreover. I can barely find the equivalent level of code awesomeness as it is in D libraries. We just need to speed up the progress and reduce work fragmentation.

Piotrek

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