On Tuesday, 12 May 2015 at 20:23:32 UTC, bachmeier wrote:
On Tuesday, 12 May 2015 at 18:35:10 UTC, FujiBar wrote:
For those keeping track of every mentioning of D in the media
(Hi Andrei!):
The following article about Rust made it to the front page of
HN and /r/programming recently:
http://www.viva64.com/en/b/0324/
Here is the part mentioning D:
"Well, as you probably remember, it is far not the first
attempt to create a "better" C/C++. Take the D language, for
instance. It was released in 2001 and is a good language
indeed. But there are no vacancies, no decent development
tools, no remarkable success stories associated with it. The
OpenMW project was initially started in D but then the authors
suddenly decided to completely rewrite it into C++. As they
confessed, they'd been receiving piles of emails where people
would say, "you are making a cool project and we'd like to
contribute to it, but we don't know and neither feel like
studying this silly D". Wikipedia tells us that there were a
lot of other attempts besides D to kill C++ - for example
Vala, Cyclone, Limbo, BitC. How many of you have even heard of
these languages?"
Walter would probably violently disagree with the "no decent
development tools" assessment. But I got to say that people
used to Visual Studio and XCode (like myself) not being
impressed by D's 1980s-style bare basic command line tools is
not surprising.
I think an IDE, one could call it "DCode" (great name, isn't
it?), which integrates all the available tools and provides a
modern graphical interface to them would do wonders.
I used to be a command line / text editor / handwritten builds
scripts guy myself. But then I was forced to use Visual Studio
for a project and now I do not want to go back.
I thought the problem was that D has a garbage collector. Or
was that last week's one real reason that nobody will switch
from C++ to D?
At work, we develop software in the JVM and .NET eco-systems,
with C++ being used for additional integration at the OS level,
performance and COM objects.
Alongside the IDE and OS vendor support, there is the mixed
debugging experience.
On my side projects, C++ is used for the business code between
Android and Windows Phone with the platform specific code written
in Java and C++/CX.
--
Paulo
