On Tuesday, 29 September 2015 at 11:40:20 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
On Tuesday, 29 September 2015 at 09:02:13 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
actually use the product. If you can put your theoretical mind on hold for a few days and actually immerse yourself in the language and its idioms for practical use*, you'd see that D has a large feature-overlap with to up-to-date C++, but often feels very different in practice.

There is nothing theoretical about this, I am only concerned about the language, not the standard library. The same with C++.

One usually don't judge a system level language based on its libraries. System level usage of the same system level language can be very different because people use different core libraries. So there is essentially no reason to complain about D's libraries.

If you look for system level programming you also essentially agree to writing the libraries you need or create bindings to whatever system you intend to build for. I am not interested in Phobos, I am not fond of it and I don't focus on it since I don't have to use it. I am interested in the language/runtime, not libraries which I understand that I have to do on my own.

Ok, that's fine, but your comments don't generally come with a "this observation is limited to very bare-bones code, beyond which I am not interested to think about" caveat, the stuff your saying is often very wide-ranging. Also, even for the low-level work that you specialise in, practice can lead to insights.

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