On Thursday, 8 October 2015 at 11:56:58 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
On Thursday, 8 October 2015 at 11:34:51 UTC, Chris wrote:
in D. Then again, I don't know how Go and Rust will fare in a
couple of years' time.
I think the C++ people are desperately trying to recapture the
application market with some of the things that they propose
for C++17/20. I think that market is dying fast for C++. I
don't know about Rust, they seem to aim for high level
programming. I think both C++ and Rust have too many syntax
issues to be convenient for high level applications.
Go I think will do ok for focused web services with not too
complicated logic. I don't think they will replace Java. I
think Go will take the market where people have been using
Java, but not really needed the feature set.
But a language like D that is already very feature rich cannot be
dragged down to the level of Go anymore. D combines Go and Java,
although in an incomplete way (as of now).
The lines seem to blur over time, because any language is
pretty useless without at least one powerful library to its
name.
Applications benefit from frameworks, and then the desired
frameworks dictate the language you use. So growth is difficult
in that domain.
But you can implement you application model in an "engine
language" and use a javascript framework for the UI with a
browser engine in-between then the "engine language" can focus
on efficient marshalling between that browser engine and the
runtime.
So basically, break up the eco system so that you aren't locked
into a small language (like D or Rust).
That's what I've been doing for 2-3 years now thanks to D. I use
D as the core and everything else is glued onto the D core. D is
actually pretty good at this. Since it's cross-platform, I can
use the same code base everywhere. I don't need to worry about
UIs or the like. On Windows, for example, I can compile the code
into a dll and expose the functions that are needed. The UI can
be in Python, Lua or whatever. I'm kinda using D as "C with
high-level features". This is exactly what brought me to D, not
having to worry about platforms anymore. Write once, connect to
anything.
