On 4/6/17 9:05 AM, deadalnix wrote:
You can point me as the lazy bum here, but there is a reasons why the lifetime ML died. You ignored all proposal that weren't your own and people stopped participating. I'm just the only one persistent enough to continue pointing it out.
Persistent is best when it leads to palpable results. We seem to be in an impasse that is difficult to overcome: discussing complex language design matters is tenuous over forum communication, but investing effort upfront into a proposal that may not be approved is a high cost.
One thing that would be great to factor out of the conversation is the finger pointing and accusations. I have absolutely no doubt you have the best interests at heart. On our side, we are here to help the D community best we can. Yes, there are ideas we don't consider good to pursue, but that doesn't automatically make us neither malicious nor incompetent.
There is this whole "you are ignoring others' ideas" and "we demand that this is listened to" that is sadly quite harmful. There is not ignoring as much as the difficulty on working on someone else's rough idea, while they simultaneously refuse to flesh it out. Going by our design sensibilities we consider our take on Exception workable. We know how to pursue it, make a detailed DIP for it, accompany it with a proof of concept implementation, and deploy it. At the same time we have gathered a very hazy understanding of your ideas from a few posts lacking detail - posts that even you can't find, refer, and formalize. We don't think it's reasonable that you consider us at fault for not pursuing your ideas.
Andrei
