On 10/26/17 7:09 AM, Mike Parker wrote:
On Thursday, 26 October 2017 at 10:16:27 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On 10/26/17 00:32, Jacob Carlborg wrote:
IIRC, there have been people on these forums that have been asking why
they need to download additional software when they already have the
compiler.
Same on macOS.
How many though? Also, we have to do it for macOS, why is Windows
special? The macOS setup was just as hard. Download two large packages
(XCode+Cmd tools), install, and done.
There definitely has been an uptick in that sort of complaint. The
question should be, how many aren't coming here to complain?
My initial internal reaction has always been, "just download and install
-- how hard is it?". But one day I stopped and asked myself, what if I
were coming to D today? I got by just fine for years without having VS
installed. Once the 6.0 days were behind me, I neither needed nor wanted
VS. I was content with mingw for my C stuff. When I first came to D, I
came with the full knowledge that there was no ecosystem, things were
rough, and I'd have to do a lot by hand. I stuck around because the
language was worth it. If I came in today and saw that I needed to
install VS just to get 64-bit binaries, I doubt I'd stick around long
enough to discover how great the language is.
I also didn't like that I had to install the Xcode tools on my Mac, but
that's needed for any development on Mac from what I can see.
A wizard-style installation with links to things and a good flow might
help a lot here. Is that possible? -- Andrei
