On 28.03.2018 13:34, Timon Gehr wrote:
On 27.03.2018 20:14, Manu wrote:
That's exactly what I've been saying. For like, 9 years..
It looks like this:
https://github.com/TurkeyMan/DIPs/blob/ref_args/DIPs/DIP1xxx-rval_to_ref.md
  (contribution appreciated)

As far as I can tell, it's completely benign, it just eliminates the
annoying edge cases when interacting with functions that take
arguments by ref. There's no spill-over affect anywhere that I'm aware
of, and if you can find a single wart, I definitely want to know about
it.

???
 >> I've asked so many times for a technical destruction, nobody will
present any opposition that is anything other than a rejection *in
principle*. This is a holy war, not a technical one.

That's extremely unfair. It is just a bad idea to overload D const for this purpose. Remove the "const" requirement and I'm on board.

"The proposal could be amended to accept mutable ref's depending on the value-judgement balancing these 2 use cases. Sticking with const requires no such value judgement to be made at this time, and it's much easier to relax the spec in the future with emergence of evidence to do so."

Just get it right the first time. "const" is a serious API restriction, and it shouldn't be forced on anyone, even intermittently until they figure out that it is too restrictive (as well as viral).

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