On Saturday, 30 June 2018 at 01:33:34 UTC, Jonathan M Davis wrote:
On Saturday, June 30, 2018 01:12:10 Joakim via Digitalmars-d
wrote:
Yes, this is about those people, who as that blog post notes,
are wasting a ton of money on an outdated ritual that no
longer makes sense. If you believe the core team and a few key
devs like you need to get together once a year in person and
hash things out, then do that as an offline retreat somewhere,
just don't sucker in a bunch of other paying DConf attendees
to help defray your costs.
The ultimate question here is what is the best use of the
money that's being expended every year at DConf? Is that money
best spent mostly on hotel/conference rooms and airline
tickets for marginal benefit to most or on actually getting
shit done? I think it's obvious that the model I've sketched
out to Mike above would get a _lot_ more done.
A lot of people would disagree with you. If you don't want to
go, then don't go. If others don't want to go, then they don't
have to go. No one is being forced to go. There are clearly
plenty of folks interested in going to dconf, and I expect that
it will continue to happen so long as there is such interest.
If folks aren't interested, then they won't show up, and if
attendance is too low, then presumably, dconf won't be held
anymore. However, the interest is clearly there even if you
aren't interested, and I don't understand why you would be
trying to get folks to stop going when they're very much
interested in going and see value in doing so. If all you care
about is being able to get online content, then just watch the
videos online.
My point is obvious from the arguments I've made, including the
one you just responded to while ignoring the substance of the
argument. And not that many people are actually interested in
attending DConf as presently run, I counted what, maybe 100-150
people at the one in Munich last month?
If you're going to keep ignoring Marco's and my arguments and
simply repeatedly state that it's worth it for those who attend
despite all the flaws, then there's no point in discussing it.
Clearly the current conference format is like a religious ritual
for you then, something that must be blindly done regardless of
any considerations of value.
