On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 12:32:33 UTC, Andre Pany wrote:
On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 06:47:00 UTC, Everlast wrote:
On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 01:39:04 UTC, Paul Backus
wrote:
On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 00:49:36 UTC, Everlast
wrote:
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If you don't want to use D, then don't use D. No one is
holding a gun to your head.
It seems to me like what D needs, right now, is people who
are willing to roll up their sleeves and get to work when
they see something that needs fixing. If that's something
you're either unable or unwilling to do, for whatever reason,
then D probably isn't a good choice for you right now. And
that's ok. We all have our own goals and priorities, and no
single programming language is going to be a perfect fit for
everybody.
I'm not going to sit here and spend have my time fixing shit
that should have never broke in the first place.
Thanks, you've made a great decision for me, I'm not longer
using D for anything. The only reason I used it was for it's
binary support and meta programming... no longer. Screw
performance, non one else really cares and one doesn't
necessarily need meta programming.
Thanks, see you in another life!
You showed as a painful issue in our eco system which we can
work on, thank you.
You do not need to work on this but do you have a proposal for
a solution? What would you help (ranking according to last
update, ...)
Kind regards
Andre
The problem is that all projects should be maintained. The issue,
besides the tooling which can only reduce the problem to
manageable levels, is that projects go stale over time.
This is obvious! You say though "But we can't maintain every
package, it is too much work"... and that is the problem, not
that it is too much work but there are too many packages. This is
the result of allowing everyone to build their own kitchen sink
instead of having some type of common base types.
It's sort of like most things now... say cell phone batteries...
everyone makes a different one to their liking and so it is a big
mess to find replacements after a few years.
See, suppose if there were only one package... and everyone
maintained it. Then as people leave other people will come in in
a continual basis and the package will always be maintained as
long as people are using it.
This is why D needs organization, which it has none. It needs
structure so things work and last and it isn't a continual fight.
It's like if someone doesn't take care of their car. Eventually
it starts to break down and when they do shitty fixes it only
buys them a little time before it breaks down again and again.
The issue isn't the fixes nor the car but how they use the car
and not maintain it properly. That is, it is their mindsets.
Since D seems to be full of people with very little understanding
how how to build a proper foundation for organization, D has
little chance of surviving. As the car breaks down more and more
it is just a matter of time before it ends up in the junk heap.
It was a great car while it lasted though...
