On Saturday, 8 September 2018 at 14:20:10 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
Religions have believers but not supporters - in fact saying you are a supporter says you are not a member of that faith or community.

If you are a supporter of Jesus Christ's efforts, then you most certainly are a christian. If you are a supporter of the Pope, then you may or not may be catholic, but you most likely are christian or a sympathise with the faith.

Programming languages are more like powertools. You may be a big fan of Makita and dislike using other powertools like Bosch and DeWalt, or you may have different preferences based the situation, or you may accept whatever you have at hand. Being a supporter is stretching it though... Although I am sure that people who only have Makita in their toolbox feel that they are supporting the company.

Social institutions need support to develop - language is a very old human institution, and programming languages have more similarity with natural languages alongst certain dimensions (I'm aware that NLP is your field) than some recognise.

Sounds like a fallacy.

So, why shouldn't a language have supporters? I give some money to the D Foundation - this is called providing support.

If you hope to gain some kind of return for it or consequences that you benefit from then it is more like obtaining support and influence through providing funds. I.e. paying for support...

It's odd - if something isn't useful for me then either I just move on and find something that is, or I try to directly act myself or organise others to improve it so it is useful. I don't stand there grumbling at the toolmakers whilst taking no positive action to make that change happen.

Pointing out that there is a problem, that needs to be solved, in order to reach a state where the tool is applicable in a production line... is not grumbling. It is healthy. Whether that leads to positive actions (changes in policies) can only be affected through politics, not "positive action". Doesn't help to buy a new, bigger and better motor, if the transmission is broken.

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