On Tuesday, 18 September 2018 at 07:53:31 UTC, Joakim wrote:
On Monday, 17 September 2018 at 22:27:41 UTC, Neia Neutuladh wrote:
On Monday, 17 September 2018 at 15:47:14 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Not sure why that matters if you agree with Kay that HTML is an abortion? :) I actually think it's great that mobile is killing off the web, as the Comscore usage stats I linked earlier show.

HTML is a somewhat open standard. I'm more happy with HTML and Javascript, as ugly as they are and as dominated by Google and Microsoft as they are, than having to target private companies' frameworks.

So you'd rather target an incredibly badly designed open standard than a mostly open source "private company's" framework that's certainly not great, but much better? It's no contest for me, give me the latter any day. And then of course, there's always cross-platform OSS toolkits like Flutter or DlangUI.

Thinking about it a bit more, the openness of the platform is more important. Android and iOS are effectively closed platforms. You *can* sideload apps, but it's rare to find someone willing to do so. If you're not on the app stores, your app isn't going to get a thousandth as much traction.

Windows, on the other hand, has long been an open platform; you can develop for it and publish your programs and Microsoft won't get in the way.

So an open source cross-platform toolkit controlled by a single entity isn't bad. I use GTK+ a lot, for instance. But the web and HTML is a better situation than Android and iOS and their toolkits.

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