On Thursday, 20 September 2018 at 10:02:05 UTC, Laurent Tréguier wrote:
I apologize for the tone I'm using, I shouldn't jump on that train. I'll clarify my position on this: I'm not completely absolutely sure that smartphones will kill the PC market, but I do think it's a possibility that just can't be dismissed.

The PC market will change but dying is a big word.

PC sales have dropped over the years for multiple reasons:

* Adoption of smartphones and tablets
* PC hardware getting so powerful, that people have little reason to upgrade
* Consoles taking over PC for couch gaming

But ...

PC are a integral part of our daily business life. This is a market where PC decline is hard simply because the flexibility that PCs offer.

You can do a lot with a smartphone and tablet but a lot of those tasks are way harder or time consuming then doing them on a PC.

I can install termux on my phone but no way i will program for hours on a 6" screen. Let alone all the IDE and debugging tools i that are not available ( lets not start Vim discussions, thank you very much ).

You can attach a keyboard to your phone, a bigger screen to your phone and you have half a PC. But you are still missing the software...

We will probably move to a hybrid solution like this in the future, where people can use their smartphones as PCs ( with attachments for productivity ) but its a LONG road to get even close to the same level that a basic PC offers in terms of power and flexibility.

A smartphone is nothing else then a smaller tablet, what is nothing else then a less flexible laptop, what is nothing else then a compacter and not flexible PC.

Just basic concept like multi windows handling is like a alien idea on smartphones and badly done. Even Windows 3.1 was more capable on this part. Currently smartphones are not designed for the creativity and flexibility you need.

Can they become this? Sure ... but not with the current mobile operating systems. Android is a resource hog ( JVM thank you very much ) that uses more memory then my Windows 10 installation while offering less flexibility! Microsoft tried and fell flat on their face.

Its possible we may see devices that are plenty powerful to do day to day tasks and see PCs become specialized tools requiring (high paid) experts. But smartphones will always be limited with cooling and power usage compared to a full blown pc. The only way to mitigate this is by having servers offload intensive tasks.

I do not see PCs dying out, just changing in nature. A smartphone is a PC, just one that is less flexible and is power limited because of its size. And that law will always be true. If you can put X power in a small device, you can put X * 10 in a bigger device, you can put X * 100 in a even bigger device.

And do not be so sure that ARM is the future... I have several NUCs around here and those things are darn powerful ( think 8 year old PC ) these days, with a very low power usage ( 6W ). And Risk-V is coming up...

The PC world as we know, never stops changing. But predictions that X will die are wrong. They simply evolve. A Smartphone/Tablet is a PC, so anybody making claims how PCs are dying, is simply stating that PCs are simple evolving into different forms.

And by the way, smartphone sales are also starting to plateau because people are less fast on replacing their phones these days. If it was not for the battery dying on people, people will hold on for years these days. Wait until we have electric cars and those batteries *ha*... forced redundant, you bet your ass on it. So do not be so happy about PCs changing because the change is not in the interest of the consumer. No reuse, forced redundancy, ... Great for companies, bad for consumers like us.

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