On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:48:06 -0400, Michel Fortin <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2010-08-10 10:19:25 -0400, "Steven Schveighoffer" <[email protected]> said:

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:11:21 -0400, Michel Fortin <[email protected]> wrote:

On 2010-08-10 08:11:21 -0400, "Steven Schveighoffer" <[email protected]> said:

Undefined, undefined, undefined :)
So we agree on that. That's exactly what I was trying to prove to Andrei. Using clear() can break program invariants, break the type system (immutable members) and so on, even though I admit it can be useful at times. **** So why give it a so innocuous-looking name such as "clear" !! ****
 I think that book has shipped.

That's not really an answer to the question. The answer I expected was more that it seemed innocuous at the time, even though now it appears more harmful. To me it's the C++ copy constructor all over again...

Can we really not fix it before every one start using it? In other words, which is worse: having something in the book deprecated just a few months after publication? or having hundreds of programers using clear() thinking it is innocuous?

I guess I don't agree that it's badly named, or I don't really care what it's named. Clear sounds fine to me. I use clear to clear out the data in a collection, seems about the same.

At the very least I'd like to have a way to disable it for certain classes (by throwing an exception when you try).

Hm... do you have a good use case?

A hook to indicate "hey object, clear is being called, not a GC collection cycle" may be useful for other purposes as well.

-Steve

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