Bonnie,

Olivia has similar advantages to other wide data modes that spread the 
information over a wide enough area and are redundant enough that even 
if part of the data is damaged, it can print fairly well on the 
receiving end. PSK31 being a very narrow mode with no FEC, is directly 
affected by any interference, doppler polar flutter, selective fading 
and not well suited for the HF ionosphere when conditions are difficult. 
QPSK31 does not perform better under conditions that cause phase 
shifting errors so most have stayed with PSK31. PSK63 is less effective 
than PSK31, but under good conditions can be useful due to double the 
speed. This is the "official" digital sound card mode for ARES/RACES in 
my Section.

Until Olivia came along, MFSK16 seemed to me to be the best overall 
moderate BW mode that could work deeper into the noise than any other 
amateur data mode. Much deeper than PSK31, as well as operate under 
conditions that would make PSK31 unuseable. PSK31 cannot tolerate even 
slight noise bursting, while MFSK16 can tolerate short ones. Modes such 
as MT-63 can tolerate even longer burst noise, but can not work as deep 
into the noise as even PSK31. Of course MT63 has the highest speed of 
all current sound card modes but can not work very deep into the noise 
compared to the other digital modes.

The main problem with Olivia is that in order to get the robust effect 
you need to use the wider BW modes with slow enough baud rates and that 
makes it slower than most of the other digital modes. My view is that 
when you go much below the equivalent of RTTY 45 baud speed, it can be 
frustratingly slow. Whenever you have something new that can not at 
least equal older technology, even in one parameter, it can be 
disappointing. When we tried to use the higher speed Olivia modes (4 
tones at 500 Hz BW at 125 baud) even though with a BW larger than 
MFSK16, on 80 meter HF, the mode was not useable under what I would 
characterize as typical conditions, while MFSK16 was near perfect copy.

I find that in terms of tuning in stations, PSK31 is the easiest, even 
with very weak signals. Of course Olivia and MFSK16 will still print on 
the screen even though it is nearly impossible to discern the signal in 
the waterfall. At that S/N ratio, PSK31 would not even be printing:)

73,

Rick, KV9U





expeditionradio wrote:

> Could someone please point out what advantage Olivia has?
>
> Or how to operate or configure Olivia to get an advantage over PSK?
>
> Maybe my equipment isn't set up right to discover the Olivia advantage.
> I have been running Olivia for a while, but I have not found any
> advantage over BPSK or QPSK. Note: I have not done any testing, or
> side-by-side comparisons... just regional and DX QSOs near the noise
> floor.
>
> Olivia requires more bandwidth than standard PSK31 or PSK63.
> Even a standard PSK31 seems to get through as good or better than what
> I've found with Olivia. PSK63 seems plenty fast enough for most
> keyboarding.
>
> Bonnie KQ6XA
>
>



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