Dave is quite correct. Lets make it clear that those of us who want to 
see improvements in digital technology detection of busy channels, are 
not in opposition to standard third party traffic handling via amateur 
radio channels. In fact, I personally am in favor of this. The automated 
systems simply must have some controls in terms of insuring content so 
that ANY amateur radio operator who is monitoring can, in fact, be able 
to determine if there are abuses in progress.

This is a problem with Winlink 2000 since it uses compression techniques 
that make it much harder to decode. In fact, some Winlink 2000 folks 
were promoting this a while back as one of the benefits of the system 
and actually derided anyone who suggested that it was possible to easily 
decode their system.

Even though I support the basic concept of Winlink and Winlink 2000 and 
PSKmail, and other messaging systems as they are developed, we have not 
insured that we can self police in all cases. If we hams do not self 
police, no one else is going to be doing it. This is not a minor issue. 
And now we have some ARRL Directors supporting actual encryption on the 
ham bands starting with 50 MHz and above. This is truly a "slippery 
slope" and I believe we should convince our Directors that this is very 
bad idea considering the abuses that will surely occur if it was ever 
permitted.

In terms of content here in the U.S., the FCC liberalized the rules some 
years ago and does allow for some casual "quasi personal business" type 
messaging. This was made clear when it was pointed out that you could 
now order a pizza via an amateur radio phone patch such as through a 
repeater. But just because you can do this doesn't mean that you should. 
And owners of the radio servers need to be very careful about what kind 
of traffic is going through their system. We know from recent comments 
that there have been many borderline and possibly illegal transmissions 
being made on the Winlink 2000 system. My previous understanding was 
that the owner of the system was diligent in monitoring the throughput, 
but it appears otherwise. The same rules should apply to any other 
system and PSKmail would be no exception either although I would expect 
that the transmissions would be more transparent in that system?

If the hams using the radio servers knew that many people would be 
monitoring their transmissions, and that they would be blocked from 
using the system if they were caught, the amount of improper activity 
would be greatly reduced.

73,

Rick, KV9U



Dave Bernstein wrote:

> Pactor is not the problem, Roger. Ops running keyboard-to-keyboard
> Pactor can determine that the frequency is clear before
> transmitting, just as you would in PSK, RTTY, or Olivia.
>
> Other than excluding commercial content, its a slipperly slope to
> say what kind of traffic constitutes "true ham radio" and what
> doesn't. What's wrong with boaters with valid amateur licenses
> sending messages to Aunt Nelly, so long as they obey the rules and
> operate considerately.
>
>     73,
>
>        Dave, AA6YQ
>
>   




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