Okay I will join the fun. Why is that getting old for you? The station should be able to determine that the frequency is in use and not transmit back. PERIOD. I am really puzzled by why anyone concerned with Pactor tries to justify QRM. It's basically a problem on their end but they have pages of excuses and even technical details on why it's everyone else's fault. It's the automatic stations that are causing the problem not the casual users that are having QSOs but it seems Pactor operators blame us. I guess that's a defense mechnanism. It's odd though.
I am willing to admit that I have unintentially come on a frequency and then found out I was interferring with a QSO (similar to what you described) but I didn't continue to transmit after I found out; I put my tail between my legs for being stupid, appologised and moved somewhere else. I don't do it often it has happened and purely by accident...I am human after all but these machines see to do it all the time, on a very regular basis, without seeming to actually listen to see if the frequency is occupied, and then continue to transmit until they are finished. That's the difference. I QSY, they QRM. As for RTTY... it's not dead. I use it every single day. I don't like PSK much. I don't know why but I just don't. I find more DX on RTTY quite frankly. There are still lots of stations using it daily on 20m. When I worked 3Y0X it was on RTTY on 15 metres and 20 metres... (Yah I am bragging but..). So RTTY will be around for a while. Wide modes are fun to play with but when all is said and done I go back to RTTY. I enjoy Hell, MFSK, and all the other modes actually but when all is said and done I go back to RTTY because at the moment that's really where the action is for me. Paul VE9NC --- In [email protected], John Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dave I could talk till I was blue in the face about ready > to drop dead. But you and others already have you mind > made up with this anti wide and pactor attitude. > > I nor anyone else could say a thing that would please > you. > > Lets try the guy 150 miles from you well within your > ring of silence (you can't copy each other if you had to) > listens to the frenquncy (unable to ask if the frequency > is in use on every mode known to man) hears nothing. > brings up the auto station and in doing so QRM's a QSO > on the same frequency that he did not hear. > > Now as I see it that is not the fault of the auto station. > But I know you are going to say that the auto station > *should* be able to tell if it was in use. And that is getting > real old with me. > > > > > At 06:47 PM 2/20/06, you wrote: > >Yes, lots of talk, but no description of an actual scenario that > >substantiates that talk. > > > >The explanation, I believe, is that there is no such scenario. If you > >disagree, describe the scenario. > > > > 73, > > > > Dave, AA6YQ > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], John Becker <w0jab@> wrote: > > > > > > This has been talked about by many > > > Me for one. > > > > > > At 05:32 PM 2/20/06, you wrote: > > > >I have never seen you or any one else here describe a scenario in > > > >which someone already in QSO on a frequency is QRM'd by an automatic > > > >station, and the fault doesn't lie with the automatic station. > > > > > > > >If you can describe such a scenario, please do so. > > > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > > > Dave, AA6YQ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > > >Other areas of interest: > > > >The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ > >DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
