On Wednesday 22 February 2006 01:09, Dave Bernstein wrote:
> >>>AA6YQ comments below
>

>
> >>>Unless a remote operator seeking access to the automatic station
> is sitting on frequency waiting for the frequency to clear, there
> will be a signficant delay between the frequency clearing and the
> first transaction. The proposed multi-minute process that verifies
> that the frequency is truly clear runs in parallel with this delay.
> The probability that the remote operator will attempt initiation
> within 5 minutes of the frequency clearing is low, hence the impact
> on overall throughput will be low.

Have you ever listened on the Winlink and NTS-D frequencies? On 40m at night 
it is hard to establish any kind of session because of the usage levels. I 
don't get much of a chance to listen to 20m during the day but based on 
Winlink traffic loads it would appear that those channels are very busy also.

The biggest problem is that the remote operator does NOT sit on the channel 
waiting for it to clear. That is the whole crux of the hidden transmitter 
problem. The proposed multi-minute wait process just multiplies the session 
time requiring even more channels to carry the traffic.



> >>>Most ops would quickly learn to recognize "QRL?" in CW. Replying
> requires nothing more than hitting a couple of keys, whether on an
> KSR-33 or a keyboard.

I disagree. Most ops don't *listen* to the data tones on a frequency. I know I 
don't. Nor do I sit there watching the waterfall while I am reading a 
transmission or compose one to send. My guess is that most ops would never 
hear or recognize a QRL in a mode different from the one they are using.



> It would be much better if the automatic station could respond to a
> standard QRL signal during receive periods (wasn't it you that
> suggested that to me at some time in the past?).
>
> >>>Yes, I did; the two techniques are complementary.
>

I don't agree. I like the ability to actually break into a transmission much 
better.

tim ab0wr


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