Charlie,

Autovon is now called Defense Switching Network.  But cannot handle data very 
well as it is not set up to do so.  In fact, the network will reject modem 
signals by design.

Government agencies DO purchase bandwidth to deal with disasters and 
emergencies...above normal and wartime needs.  And much of the increased 
bandwidth is on contract but called for and put on-line only when needed.

If you look Internet bandwidth/connectivity available to government agencies 
from various agencies such as GSA, Navy, Air Force, DISA, FEMA, DHS contracting 
vehicles, you will notice that they are with will known IT providers who meet 
the required government specifications.

By law, the government is somewhat limited in who they can get Internet service 
from and if it is a DoD agency, there are even more limitations since the 
connectivity must be connected to the Military Network...separate from the 
Internet.

The problem which you really finger is the failure of Internet connectivity in 
certain regions/geographical areas rather than the entire U.S. or other country.

Currently there is a government facility that does not have Internet 
connectivity.  The problem is being worked by technicians on the 
telephone...but what if no telephones?  How would they work the problem between 
the facility and its network operating center over 1000 miles away?  

How can or can amateur radio help if this were and emergency?

Walt/K5YFW

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur
RadioService Emergency Communications


There is a difference between an attack and a disaster. If we have a
major storm or an earthquake, the ability of the Internet to function
outside the disaster area will not be affected. 

It is incumbent upon served agencies and gov't responders to make sure
that they have reliable Internet service. Just as they have priority
service through cell carriers and the regional Bells. They also have
Autovon (or its replacement) lines.

The Internet is not one massive structure. It's just a collection of
linked Networks. Each independent from the other. Some are completely
independent and separate from the Internet. Some are more secure and
robust than others. 

In most cases, the long haul infrastructure of the Internet is the same
as our long distance and Intralata phone system. These are rather robust
systems. 

Are they infallible? Of course not. But they are here to stay and where
they can be of service they can and will be used. 

Charlie Crizer , KF4MNE
Cell 202-210-6346
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  - Winlink2000/Airmail
Disaster Services - Communications (Northern VA)
Disaster Action Team Lead (Fairfax County South)
American Red Cross of the National Capital Area

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of kd4e
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 22:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: The Internet is Unreliable for Amateur
RadioService Emergency Communications

> Lets make a little wager.  I'll guarantee this message gets to the
list
> using the supposedly unreliable SMTP technology.   I'll guarantee it
for X
> dollars that it works.   Now - for what value of Y dollars will
anybody
> here guarantee me that it doesn't work?   Do we lose one message in a
> hundred?  A thousand?
> 
> 73
> Bill - WA7NWP

Had I bet you a million dollars Sunday morning that
your message would not make it to me with 10 hours
of less I would be a millionaire.

All day today I have been receiving messages sent
late Saturday and all day Sunday -- delayed almost
24 hours due to an Internet glitch.

In a crisis such lack of reliability could mean
the death of 1, 100, 1,000, 10,000 100,000, or
perhaps millions.

The Internet has been successfully attacked before
and it is probable that in any significant direct
attack on the USA it will be a prime target.

I believe that the Internet has a few critical
switch points same as the gas supply system in
the USA.  One of more taken out by man or nature
and the Internet as we know it begins to collapse.

Point-to-point radio is vastly less vulnerable.

-- 

Thanks! & 73,
doc, KD4E
... somewhere in FL
URL:  bibleseven (dot) com


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