There are too many that do not know "emergency" communications really is. An 
emergency is an impendent threat to life and property. Just how long has it 
been since we had a disaster that required nation wide emergency 
communications? How long did it last? Last summer during the hurricanes, and 
then was there a need for nation wide emergency communications?

Joe
W4JSI


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:22 AM
  Subject: RE: [digitalradio] USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms


  Most "emergency" communications is in reality disaster communications and is 
NOT in support of "governments" but rather non-governmental agencies, i.e. the 
Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc. These organizations do need very high-speed 
throughput modes that are robust to meet their operational needs and do not 
have the funding to provide hardware to support the need.

  Since the agencies supported are not government organizations (NGO), they 
cannot provide frequencies or bandwidth to support their communications needs. 
If the NGO has HF frequency/frequencies, they are controlled by the FCC and 
have strict bandwidth limits for their type of service. Even governmental 
agencies/organizations are controlled by a federal agency that limits their 
frequency use, power and bandwidth. Amateur radio is the only source that 
actually has a change for providing frequencies and bandwidths to meet NGO 
needs.

  But needing higher-speed and more robust modes is not the only need of 
NGOs...they also need robust chat and text modes that are robust for instant 
command and control operations...much like a round-table QSO and QSOs between 
two or three individuals. This modes certainly can and should be spectrum 
efficient and robust...and there are few of us that type at more than 30 or 40 
WPM in a chat situation.

  Thus what goes on here is germane to all sorts of digital communications.

  Traffic handlers, DXers, ragchewers, QRPers, disaster communicators etc. can 
all benefit
  from what is learned here.

  Walt/K5YFW

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danny Douglas
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:41 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms

  I am with you Rick. I see no need for faster, wider signals on a daily
  basis, and that is where most hams are. I am not going to spend dollars to
  set up something that just gets "exercised" once a quarter or even once a
  month to support something that is not going to give ME a return. Again, I
  will say: It is well and good for hams to volunteer to run emergency
  communications for government agencies, because they have the training to do
  so, understand props, and many are retirees who can give the time. The
  local, state, and federal governments want our help - then they should
  provide the equipment and the bandwidth for its use- and that bandwidth is
  out there, assigned to agencies now.

  Lets see if we can get this digitalradio group back to hamming subjects. If
  those who are interested wish to do so, please go start up another group.
  Call it "emergencydigitalcommunications" or whatever, but lets get back to
  amateur basics here, and quit bothering the rest who couldnt give a tinkers
  dam about 16 kc wide, multi mega baudot commercial equipment "just in case"
  the government wants someone to use it, someday.

  Danny Douglas N7DC
  ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
  SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
  DX 2-6 years each
  .
  QSL LOTW-buro- direct
  As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you
  use that - also pls upload to LOTW
  or hard card.

  moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "KV9U" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: <[email protected]>
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms

  > I personally can not support any modes wider than a standard SSB width.
  >

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