Coding  Coding
Mode            Baud     Speed  Correction      Convolution Interleaving SNR 
(in dB) Bandwidth
DominoEx11      10.766  77 WPM  No              No              Not Stated      
Not Stated       194 Hz
DominoEx22      21.533 154 WPM  No              No              Not Stated      
Not Stated       388 Hz
MT63-1K 10       100 WPM        No              No              Yes             
-5               1000 Hz

Perhaps the bandwidth of MT63 and its SNR threshold may have been the 
difference.  But I don't know what the SNR threshold of DEx11 and DEx22 are.  
Also, they are different types of modulations.

Walt/K5YFW

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill McLaughlin
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: DEX vs. MT-63


Hi Rick,

That pretty much echos my experience too...DominoEX at 11 baud seems 
to be the best compromise for 80/160.

Unless the S/N ratio is pretty high, I have not had the best of 
results with either CHIP or MT63....when S/N levels are high these 
modes work very well.

As for MIL-STD-188-141A/ALE...still looking for a place I feel 
comfortable placing a 2000 Hz wide digital signal upon....no issues 
trying that on 10/6/3, but of course noone will hear me there. 

Anxious to try it though; I sense alot of work went into it by 
Patrick.

73,

Bill N9DSJ

--- In [email protected], KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This evening the other station that I have been having a weekly 
hour 
> testing session with, met on 160 meters tonight. The QRN levels are 
not 
> bad (for 160), but there were static crashes over S9.
> 
> We used Domino EX/FEC at the 11 baud speed to start and had good 
luck. 
> We then moved up to DEX22/FEC and still found pretty good quality 
print 
> although there were some hits for some of the static crashes.
> 
> We then attempted to use 100 wpm, 1000 Hz wide MT-63. Very poor 
results. 
> Now I did not change my transmitter power and got very little print 
from 
> me. He normalized his power for 40 watts average and even then his 
print 
> on my end was very poor. I would get a few characters such as 
callsign 
> exchange, but miss a dozen or more characters in a row. We were 
forced 
> to go back to DEX22/FEC and finished up there.
> 
> I do want to try the ALE mode since it was incorporated into 
Multipsk. I 
> downloaded the program and I think I understand how to connect to 
> another station. Anyone on tonight yet? 160 and up. Butternut 
vertical 
> ground mounted here. Also, on 80 meters, NVIS inverted vee dipole.
> 
> Any Technician hams planning to operate CW or digital or voice on 
Friday?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Rick, KV9U
>





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