No one I know uses the HAL product, but it appears from their web 
information that they have several software packages that can provide 
peer to peer mail, chat, and gateway to the internet. Since the cost is 
prohibitive for casual amateur use, it is unlikely that you will find 
others to connect with. Also, I did not find Clover II to be all that 
good for weak signals and Clover 2000 is doubling the number of tones, 
using a much wider footprint, and doubling the speed of the tones.

If you needed an automated e-mail connection, the Winlink 2000 system 
would be the only practical one for right now, with PSKmail as an 
alternative since it looks like a full functioning Windows system is 
being developed in addition to the current Linux version.

Unlike Winlink 2000, PSKmail has additional peer to peer features and 
avoids the overly centralized nature of Winlink 2000 for HF server ad 
hoc capabilities. If PSKmail were to eventually adopt the WINMOR 
protocol or some other more robust protocol that could adjust for 
conditions, it could prove to be a very good solution to handling e-mail 
as well as local peer to peer connections.

We are not quite there yet with the kinds of systems that I would like 
to see, but we are making some significant progress.

73,

Rick, KV9U



scottfike71 wrote:
>  So, from what you are saying, it sounds to me like with a CLOVER 2000 setup 
> there needs to be two users with the same HAL modem and same HAL e-mail 
> software, and only then they can pass e-mail back and forth to each other 
> only and not to and from the internet? 
>
>  With such a setup, can one user forward an e-mail from his buddy onto the 
> internet some way?
>
>   

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