I agree, they are useful for things like this.  But at times!!!!!!   Why, when 
I have just resonded to someones call, and used his name and thanks for a qso 
from Podunk city, does he need to come back and give me his name and QTH?  Its 
like people who dont listen to a conversation, telling you something you just 
told them.  Or , you listen to a guy working a pileup, and each and every QSO 
he has to give the same info, in the same format etc. etc.  He is also givning 
each and every staiton a 59 or 599 report, even though he had to ask them three 
times for his signal report, and twice for names and QTH.  You know he is just 
hitting a MACRO .  The 100 people sitting by trying to get his attention are 
all going to get the same info, in their turn.  So, it behooves us all to use 
them properly, and only when needed.  Oh - and Yeah,  dont come to me with a 
Macro ON cw AT 40 WPM, if you cant read 40 when I come back to llyou.  I see 
way too much of that.




Danny Douglas
N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB
All 2 years or more (except Novice). Short stints at:  DA/PA/SU/HZ/7X/DU
CR9/7Y/KH7/5A/GW/GM/F
Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do.  
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: F.R. Ashley 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 12:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Dxing and long winded digital ops


    
   


  Good points by G3OBU.  

  I find Macros to be quite useful.  I use them to send info that is part of a  
normal QSO. I  use them for program operation, such as ALIGN:1500..  I imbed 
Macros to log the QSO when it ends.  I have macros loaded with QSO info in 
several different languages.   Why should I have to manually type things like 
that every time I have a QSO?   That makes far less sense than using a macro.
  What does it matter to you if I send this info via a Macro or by typing it?  
You can't tell.  I make full use of macros and will continue to use them, and 
you'll never know it.  If you don't like them, don't use them.  Or maybe turn 
on your "Macro User Detector" (MUD), which immediately terminates any QSO when 
a macro is detected.  
  Have a bitchin' 2010

  Buddy WB4M


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: John Netro-N9WVM 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 8:48 AM
    Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Dxing and long winded digital ops


          I am not a typist when it comes to ragchewing on digi modes can't 
find the letters fast enough, I don't keep my fingers on the keyboard they qay 
I learned in high school typing class
          if I have to type some thing to a contact I type it in while he is 
sending then put the macro to finish off the qso

          N9WVM
          --- On Sun, 12/27/09, Music Maker <[email protected]> wrote:


            From: Music Maker <[email protected]>
            Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Dxing and long winded digital ops
            To: [email protected]
            Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 7:45 AM


              
            Hi Folks,

            I fully understand everyones point of view over Macros, and hate 
them myself. I must admit (as a very recent newcomer to Digimode), I do use the 
Macro for calling CQ, but more often return to others calling.

            I would love to 'ragchew', but here in Europe, there are some 
underlying reasons why this is a rare occurance, and total Macro QSO's are the 
norm.

            Most operators in Europe can't speak enough good English to conduct 
a conversation, (I can't speak Russian at all!), so Macros provide a way of 
doing it. Secondly - and this applies world-wide - some operators are not very 
good typists, and are embarrased by their slow speed. Add to this dyslectic, 
disabled, and even illiterate, and Macros offer these people a life line.

            I am the fortunate one, as I am a competent 'touch typist' and am 
quite happy at anything up to about 50wpm, so obviously am very comfortable in 
a 'rag chew' - How many other Amateur Operators are really comfortable and 
competent typists? (as a percentage of the whole).

            Just my Point of view.

            John G3OBU

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            --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, "obrienaj" <k3uka...@.. .> 
wrote:
            >
            > I'm all for a good digital mode rag-chew...but allow me to be the 
Grinch on Boxing Day and gripe about digital ops that take FOREVER to sign-off 
when working DXpeditions and the like. Today when trying to work a needed 
entity , and with a fading band, I had to patiently wait my turn while others 
that had got through were sending such none sense as how many QSO's they had 
had in the particular digital mode and the exact time and date they had logged 
the QSO. Do we really need to know when you LOGGED the station you were JUST 
working?
            > 
            > I did work the DX, but I can complain too, right ?
            > 
            > Andy K3UK
            >

         



  

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