Taking it a bit personally, Jose?  No need to get snide about it. My comments 
were not an attack against you or your mode; which by the way, I think shows 
great merit. My only comment was the fact that the description of the mode as 
Spread Spectrum makes it illegal here in the USA on HF. If your signal uses a 
system similar to Olivia, then call it MFSK instead of Spread Spectrum, and 
pending any different argument from the FCC, it is suddenly legal.

As far as Olivia, the modulation method is MFSK. From the technical description 
on the ARRL site 
(http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/techchar/olivia.html)

The Olivia transmission system is constructed of two layers: the lower, 
modulation layer is an (almost) classical Multi-Frequency Shift Keying (MFSK) 
and the higher layer is a Forward Error-Correcting (FEC) code based on Walsh 
functions.

The modulation layer: MFSK

The default mode sends 32 tones within the 1000 Hz audio bandwidth and the 
tones are spaced by 1000 Hz/32 = 31.25 Hz. The tones are shaped to minimize the 
amount of energy sent outside the nominal bandwidth.

The tones are sent at 31.25 baud or every 32 milliseconds. The phase is not 
preserved from one tone to the next. Instead, a random shift of ±90 degrees is 
introduced in order not to transmit a pure tone, when same symbol is repeatedly 
sent. Because the symbols are smoothly shaped we do not need to keep the phase 
continues, which normally is the case when no (e.g. square) shaping were used.

The modulator uses the Gray code to encode 5-bit symbols into the tone numbers.

The waveform generator is based on the 8000 Hz sampling rate. The tones are 
spaced by 256 samples in time and the window that shapes them is 512 samples 
long. The demodulator is based on the FFT with the size of 512 points. The tone 
spacing in frequency is 8000 Hz/256 = 31.25 Hz and the demodulator FFT has the 
resolution of 8000 Hz/512 = 15.625 Hz thus half of the tone separation.

To adapt the system to different propagation conditions, the number of tones 
and the bandwidth can be changed and the time and frequency parameters are 
proportionally scaled. The number of tones can be 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128 or 
256. The bandwidth can be 125, 250, 500, 1000 or 2000 Hz.


The error-correcting layer: FEC based on Walsh functions
The modulation layer of the Olivia transmission system sends at a time one out 
of 32 tones (the default mode). Each tone constitutes thus a symbol that 
carries 5 bits of information. For the FEC code, 64 symbols are taken to form a 
block. Within each block one bit out of every symbol is taken and it forms a 
64-bit vector coded as a Walsh function. Every 64-bit vector represents a 7-bit 
ASCII character, thus each block represents 5 ASCII characters.

This way, if one symbol (tone) becomes corrupted by the noise, only one bit of 
every 64-bit vector becomes corrupt, thus the transmission errors are spread 
uniformly across the characters within a block.

The two layers (MFSK+Walsh function) of the FEC code can be treated as a two 
dimensional code: the first dimension is formed along the frequency axis by the 
MFSK itself while the second dimension is formed along the time axis by the 
Walsh functions. The two dimensional arrangement was made with the idea in mind 
to solve such arranged FEC code with an iterative algorithm, however, no such 
algorithm was established to date.

The scrambling and simple bit interleaving is applied to make the generated 
symbol patterns appear more random and with minimal self-correlation: this 
avoids false locks at the receiver:

Bit interleaving: The Walsh function for the first character in a block is 
constructed from the 1st bit of the 1st symbol, the 2nd bit of the 2nd symbol, 
and so on. The 2nd Walsh function is constructed from the 2nd bit of the 1st 
symbol, the 3rd bit of the 2nd symbol, and so on.

Scrambling: The Walsh functions are scrambled with a pseudo-random sequence 
0xE257E6D0291574EC. The Walsh function for the 1st character in a block is 
scrambled with the scrambling sequence, the 2nd Walsh function is scrambled 
with the sequence rotated right by 13 bits, the 3rd with the sequence rotated 
by 26 bits, and so on.

Dave
K3DCW

====================
Dave

Real radio bounces off the sky





On 19 Feb, at 5:45 PM, jose alberto nieto ros wrote:

> 
> ¿Olivia is only MFSK?  Why there is so ignorant people in the world?
>  
> 
> De: Dave <hfradio...@gmail.com>
> Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Enviado: vie,19 febrero, 2010 23:03
> Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] Re: ROS, legal in USA?
> 
>  
> Jose (and all),
> 
> 
> My two-cents worth:  
> 
> Olivia is MFSK (or AMFSK), ROS is Spread Spectrum.  MFSK is legal on HF, SS 
> is not.  
> 
> It isn't about bandwidth or any of the other arguments.  Since ROS is Spread 
> Spectrum then it is not allowed on HF in areas regulated by the FCC under the 
> current rules.  Skip is correct here and Andy is right to be concerned. 
> 
> 
> Dave
> K3DCW  
> ============ ========
> Dave
> 
> Real radio bounces off the sky
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 19 Feb, at 4:47 PM, KH6TY wrote:
> 
>> Jose,
>> 
>> We want to be able to use the mode on HF, but it is not our decision, but 
>> our FCC's decision, for whatever reasons they currently think are valid. 
>> Fortunately, it may work well on VHF and HF, so I plan to find out.
>> 
>> 73 - Skip KH6TY
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> jose alberto nieto ros wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>> We can see it as we want, but if OLIVIA is legal, ROS is legal.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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