Amateur radio is not for contesting. Amateur radio is not a sport, it is for 
communications...meaningful communications. Exchanging signal reports and 
series numbers or such other drivel is not what amateur radio was intended for. 

We need to start getting back to RADIO and COMMUNICATIONS, which when you put 
them together gives us the concept of actually using radio to communicate with 
each other, You contesters want to do this stupid garbage on the radio, then 
you need to petition the FCC for contest radio spectrum for which a special 
license would be issued. 

Then, you can exchange all of your meaningless non-communications related 
garbage to your heart's content. You contesters are making us all look bad. How 
about some of you actually getting outside and exercising while using radio the 
correct way? Go hang a wire through some trees and actually have something 
called a conversation. Take your HT with you on a walk and actually get to know 
your fellow local hams, attract others to amateur radio while showing them that 
we actually know how to have conversations. 

I know that the concept of actually having a conversation with people is hard 
for most of you to wrap your mind around, but you should really try it! It 
works! You can actually make a few more friends! A conversation happens when 
two people actually spend time together in a social manner while one person 
talks and the other listens, then the one who was listening responds with 
meaningful replies on an actual topic based on everyday reality. 

Friendships happen when two people actually connect. You gotta have human 
connection man! Yes, there are actually people out in the world who would like 
to know you if you just think about more than contesting and actually use some 
social skills. It works just fine when you try! 

Let's put the communications back into radio, and goodwill back into the 
amateur meaning of amateur radio, and bring back a focus on elmering so new 
hams can actually learn a technical skill instead of just having books shoved 
in their faces without any incentive to learn. 

--- On Sat, 7/10/10, KH6TY <[email protected]> wrote:

From: KH6TY <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] VHF Contesting
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 1:16 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      



Greg,



PSK31 is a very narrow signal and unless every transceiver has a TCXO,
the drift may be too much for the AFC to follow. PSK31 is also very
subject to Doppler distortino. In South Caronina, we use DominoEx 8 or
DominoEx4 for 2m, but Olivia or Contestia works even better with the
mulitpath and  Doppler disturbances you often encounter. Contestia
64/1000 has proven to be the very best digital mode for UHF and VHF
weak signsl and I run a daily schedule using that mode on 432.



The problem is that probably nobody else is on any of the digital modes
on 2m to talk to, but you could arrange some skeds. I suggest you use
Contestia 64/1000 for the best results. Unfortunately, only fldigi
currently supports Contestia 64/1000, so instead, try Contestia 32/1000
which DM780 and Multipsk both support. You will lose 3 dB in S/N, but
it will still work pretty well. At least it will survive the QSB and
Doppler disturbances on VHF.



It would be great to see more people using Contestia on 144 and 432
weak signal work. Contestia will copy down to the noise when SSB is no
longer able to be understood, and, at 30 wpm, is twice as fast as
Olivia. You need at least a 1000 Hz signal bandwidth to fight the
Doppler disturbances.



73, Skip KH6TY





On 7/10/2010 7:38 AM, GregCT wrote:
 

  
  Hello and Good morning to all,

Just looking for a little advise and guidance here. Next weekend is the
CQ WW VHF Contest, I'm looking forward to setting out and playing in
the contest and I'm thinking of attempting some digital contacts along
with the usual SSB to up the score a bit. I've been having alot of fun
with PSK31 mostly on HF with a spattering of other modes mixed in but
PSK being the most prevelant. I think I would most likely see some PSK
activity on 6m, but don't really know what to expect or look for as far
as modes on the 2m side of things. Would someone operate PSK on that
band or one of the other modes? I'm running HRD with DM780. 

My personal best score in the contest was in 2006 when I earned 1st
place Rover for the New England Division with 8142 points. Due to work
and family commitments, I was not able to enter again until last year,
which also earned me 1st place New England again. I'm hoping that by
adding the weak signal digital modes to the mix that I may "Defend" my
title in this year's contest but also beat my personal best score and
possible make it into the mix of the competition at the National level.
My hopes are high, but i'm not sure if the effort of lugging the laptop
along and keeping it powered up will be worth the result.. 

Any thoughts, ideas, comments that can you can send my way are
appreciated, both 'for' and 'against'... and Thank you in advance for
all that have any input/help advice to contribute

  

73

Greg

N1KPW

  

  
  







    
     

    
    


 



  



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