On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Colby Boyer <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Tom Rondeau <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Colby Boyer <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> Recently I've been using the MMSE interp filter. I found that when I
>>> shift a signal by a fractional amount of 0 (or anything really), the signal
>>> goes way off! I would expect SOME difference, but not this much...
>>>
>>> Some example output.
>>>
>>> Mu:0 In:(-1.67869,0.480381) Out:(0.0418351,-0.16734)
>>>
>>> Mu:0 In:(-1.23772,-0.104519) Out:(0.16003,-0.115883)
>>>
>>> Mu:0 In:(-1.7598,-0.0618457) Out:(0.0986395,-0.33428)
>>>
>>> On the imgur links are two Re-Im scatter plots of a bpsk signal, one with
>>> the fractional shift of 0 and the other with a fractional shift of 0.1 The
>>> points with 'x' are the resampled points and points with 'o' is the original
>>> signal. As you can see, the mmse fractional interp more or less destroys the
>>> signal! Unless I'm using it wrong!?
>>>
>>> Any comments?
>>>
>>> imgur: http://imgur.com/a/w98SX top picture is 0 delay, bottom is 0.1
>>> delay.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Colby
>>
>>
>>
>> Colby,
>> This block has been around for years without any changes, and I and others
>> have been successfully using it in various projects, so my guess is that you
>> have some misconception about what it's doing or what the parameters are.
>>
>> You can see how it's used to simulate a timing offset in
>> gnuradio-core/src/lib/hier/gr_channel_model.cc where it's used inside of the
>> gr_fractional_interpolator_cc block. We also use it in the
>> gr_clock_recovery_mm_XX and gr_mpsk_receiver_cc.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I looked at the issue again and I was not taking in account the group delay
> of the interp filter (its 5 taps into the future or 3 in the past), so I was
> sampling a few taps out of phase! After a time shift, it passes the sanity
> check of '0.0' delay. Thanks for the response!
>
> --Colby
>

Excellent, glad that worked out. I was pretty sure it works, but you never
know... good to have extra confirmation.

Tom
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