Related. It seems that this delay is not taking in account for the MM clock
recovery block? It some cases, this delay will not matter (2 or 4 samples
per symbol), but for other rates it will.

--Colby

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Tom Rondeau <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Colby Boyer <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Tom Rondeau <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:13 AM, Colby Boyer <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Recently I've been using the MMSE interp filter. I found that when I
>>>> shift a signal by a fractional amount of 0 (or anything really), the signal
>>>> goes way off! I would expect SOME difference, but not this much...
>>>>
>>>> Some example output.
>>>>
>>>> Mu:0 In:(-1.67869,0.480381) Out:(0.0418351,-0.16734)
>>>>
>>>> Mu:0 In:(-1.23772,-0.104519) Out:(0.16003,-0.115883)
>>>>
>>>> Mu:0 In:(-1.7598,-0.0618457) Out:(0.0986395,-0.33428)
>>>>
>>>> On the imgur links are two Re-Im scatter plots of a bpsk signal, one
>>>> with the fractional shift of 0 and the other with a fractional shift of 0.1
>>>> The points with 'x' are the resampled points and points with 'o' is the
>>>> original signal. As you can see, the mmse fractional interp more or less
>>>> destroys the signal! Unless I'm using it wrong!?
>>>>
>>>> Any comments?
>>>>
>>>> imgur: http://imgur.com/a/w98SX top picture is 0 delay, bottom is 0.1
>>>> delay.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Colby
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Colby,
>>> This block has been around for years without any changes, and I and
>>> others have been successfully using it in various projects, so my guess is
>>> that you have some misconception about what it's doing or what the
>>> parameters are.
>>>
>>> You can see how it's used to simulate a timing offset in
>>> gnuradio-core/src/lib/hier/gr_channel_model.cc where it's used inside of the
>>> gr_fractional_interpolator_cc block. We also use it in the
>>> gr_clock_recovery_mm_XX and gr_mpsk_receiver_cc.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> I looked at the issue again and I was not taking in account the group
>> delay of the interp filter (its 5 taps into the future or 3 in the past), so
>> I was sampling a few taps out of phase! After a time shift, it passes the
>> sanity check of '0.0' delay. Thanks for the response!
>>
>> --Colby
>>
>
> Excellent, glad that worked out. I was pretty sure it works, but you never
> know... good to have extra confirmation.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
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