Hi Riccardo, 2009/4/22 Riccardo Mottola <[email protected]>: > Hi, > > Richard Danter wrote: >> >> I have tried installing GNUstep on both an Ubuntu Linux machine with a >> GNOME desktop and on a NetBSD machine which is rather old (hardware, not >> NetBSD version) and since it can't cope with either GNOME or KDE is >> currently using good old Motif Window Manager. >> > > Well, I run it on NetBSD too, it works fine. I run it so I do not need to > run GNOME or KDE, idnependently if the machine is capable of "coping" with > them or not. Why should I hog my machine?
:-) >> >> 1. Can GNUstep apps have a "native" look and feel? >> > > No, but it can be color-schemed, themed and the menustyle bar can be > changed. The free-floating icon can be disabled, but it is useful, if you > use WIndowMaker as a windowmanager it will be recognized and "docked" > properly. >> >> I have looked arounf the GWorkspace web site and Google has taken me to >> many new web sites with tones of interesting information, but I can't >> seem to find a simple step-by-step guide to getting a full GNUstep >> desktop. >> >> On NetBSD right now I have XDM running so I have a lightweight graphical >> login, then a .xsession file in my home area which simply runs an xterm >> and mwm. >> >> I have tried simply replacing mwm with GWorkspace but it seems that it >> is not a window manager (there is no border/title bar so I can't move or >> size the windows. I also had a problem with it actually finding >> GWorkspace executable since I don't think my .bashrc file is being >> executed before .xsession and so the environment is not being set up. I >> solved that by sourcing the GNUstep.sh script in /etc/profile but I am >> not sure that is the correct solution. >> >> So what is the correct .xsession file supposed to look like? What win >> manager should I run, or did I do something else wrong? >> > > As you noticed, GWorkspace is not a windowmanager. GNUstep is capable of > handling almost everything (it can even draw the window decorations by > itself) but it neesd a window manager currently. > > I strongly suggest WindowMaker for its look but also for the good > integration with, for example, the mini-windows. WindowMaker and GWorkspace > have some functionality duplicated, like the dock. If you wish to use > windowmaker's just disable gworkspace's. Is there a doc somewhere that describes what the duplicate functionalities are and what the optimum setup is? I guess some of it is personal preference but it would be good to have a starting point that is known to work. > > Let me clarify two points though: > - you do not need strictly to run GWorkspace to run a gnustep application > - you need a windowmanager, WindowMaker is a possible option > > in your session, you can en either start windowmaker and then exec > GWorkspace or viceversa. The point in having gworkspace exec'd is that wen > it terminates you get back to xdm. GWorkspace can control all open gnustep > apps, so it will present you with a real "log off" option. > The only drawback of this approach is that if something in gnustep crashes > you exit your whole X session. If you do tests, run on unstable versions it > might affect you sometimes. Thanks, I have a couple more questions... When starting GWorkspace I get the following messages pop up: "The mount points for removable media are not defined. Using default values." How do I define these so I don't get this message? And... "No Finder modules! Quitting now." I guess I missed one of the packages when I did my install, any idea which or what else could cause this? Thanks to you and all who have answered my dumb questions! Rich -- http://radanter.deviantart.com/ _______________________________________________ Discuss-gnustep mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
