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I like using GNUstep because it feels like NeXTSTEP/OpenSTEP, so I want to see 
GNUstep as an actual desktop. Not as something that runs on top of another 
desktop. I feel like that should be the primary focus, and then all the hooks 
for running on top of Windows, Unity, or w.e should be secondary

So, I wish GNUstep was a distribution of its own. It might be psychological, 
but I feel it is more often than not treated as an add-on. And I understand 
that it is because there is no native GNUstep web-browser, no document editing 
software, et cetera. So one can not simply use GNUstep as a desktop just yet. 

I spent the last 3 years working on my own IDE for Mac OS X (and programming 
language) that I have always intended to be ported to GNUstep. But it is a 
NO-GO. Because I spend more time trying to figure out how to get Clang, ObjC 2, 
and Cairo to work (by setting arguments and what not) — Which are absolutely 
required for what I am doing. I rèad there is support for ARC, but I haven't 
even started to investigate it on GNUstep. I feel like it is too much of a 
chore to figure out how to get it going. The Wiki should be cleaned up. Or just 
deleted and started form scratch. I am tired of the instructions that do not 
work, sometimes they just make me feel stupid. 

The non Clang/ObjC2 configurations should be dropped. (MY OPINION)

I haven't installed GNUstep from scratch in about three weeks - a month or so, 
and I haven't been following as closely as I used to. For all I know these 
issues have been solved. It really is about advertisement. 

As for what other people dream… I guess it is that GNUstep can run on 
everything — including Windows.

I am sure that people are reading this going: It is not that bad, I get it 
running all the time. It works fine. So I've kept out of it. What is easy for 
others is sometimes daunting for me. 


On Aug 8, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> wrote:

> Also, regarding the "Dream of GNUstep" if you could tell me what everyone 
> else is dreaming it would be helpful.  Obviously all of us on GNUstep are not 
> dreaming the same thing everyone else seems to be. 
> 
> I realize this question sounds sarcastic, but I'm being serious.  I very much 
> want to know what people outside of this project want to see from GNUstep.
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