We could always resurrect the "Differently thunk" wordplay someone
suggested years ago, the Cocoa audience would quickly recognize that one! :P


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[email protected]
> wrote:

>
> Am 21.12.2013 um 22:29 schrieb Jamie Ramone:
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 21.12.2013 um 20:19 schrieb Jamie Ramone:
>>
>> I dunno. It doesn't seem all too catchy. If it's an old saying I've never
>> heard of it. And what does it mean, what is it refering to? What's the
>> "walled garden" and why step out of it?
>>
>>
>> "Walled garrden" is a technical term for closed ecosystems like Apple's
>> AppStore.
>>
>> Everyone can participate and submit or buy Apps, but only within the
>> sometimes quite restrictive rules defined by the operator.
>>
>> On the contrary with
>>
>> "take a GNUstep outside of the walled garden"
>>
>> you can develop any app and publish it as you like (*). And that without
>> loosing the knowledge and APIs one has learned for the Apple ecosystem.
>>
>> For a better definition look at WIkipedia:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_platform
>>
>> (*) we even have a very simple form of an AppStore (the GNUstep Software
>> Index).
>>
>>
>> How 'bout "think outside the box"? Catchy, well known and invites one to
>> take a look and not reject it flat out because it's not <insert arbitrary
>> personal reason here>.
>>
>>
>> Because GNUstep is not a tool for "thinking".
>>
>
>  Neither is Apple, which uses the "think different" catchphrase, that's
> not the point. Thinking in this context refers to considering this
> runtime/development environment over other, possibly more conventional.
> It's meant as an invitation for developers who are new to GNUstep or
> Objective C. Or, say, Cocoa developers who never considered using anything
> outside Apple's tools.
>
>
> I like the walled garden allusion. Every iOS developer knows and feels
> that and I know many would be happy to take "a GNUstep over that wall".
>
> "Thinking outside the box" is not specific enough. Every creative person
> would claim that he/she is already doing that. So the first question would
> be: what does GNUstep make differently? And there would be no answer.
>
> The key difference with these metaphors is that the "box" is seen as a
> self-imposed limit of thinking. While the walls around the garden are
> created by someone an impose limits that you wouldn't have.
> So these pictures express some very different concepts. Breaking
> self-limitation vs. breaking external limits.
>
> I think your proposal is too generic while the one with the walled garden
> is better targeted at the GNUstep (and Cocoa) audience.
>
>
>> __
>> "Besos, abrazos, confeti y aplausos"
>> Jaime "El Vikingo" Ramone
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Ivan Vučica <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> +1. I like the catchphrase.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri Dec 20 2013 at 10:03:48 PM, Graham Lee <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On 20 Dec 2013, at 20:44, "Doc O'Leary" <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Here's an attempt at a catch phrase:
>>>> >
>>>> > Step outside the walled garden.
>>>>
>>>> Heh. Nice :)
>>>>
>>>> Graham.
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