Am 21.12.2013 um 23:04 schrieb Jamie Ramone: > We could always resurrect the "Differently thunk" wordplay someone suggested > years ago, the Cocoa audience would quickly recognize that one! :P >
I like this one. It also tells with a wink that GNUstep (the roots) even predates OpenStep. > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Am 21.12.2013 um 22:29 schrieb Jamie Ramone: > >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Am 21.12.2013 um 20:19 schrieb Jamie Ramone: >> >>> I dunno. It doesn't seem all too catchy. If it's an old saying I've never >>> heard of it. And what does it mean, what is it refering to? What's the >>> "walled garden" and why step out of it? >> >> "Walled garrden" is a technical term for closed ecosystems like Apple's >> AppStore. >> >> Everyone can participate and submit or buy Apps, but only within the >> sometimes quite restrictive rules defined by the operator. >> >> On the contrary with >> >> "take a GNUstep outside of the walled garden" >> >> you can develop any app and publish it as you like (*). And that without >> loosing the knowledge and APIs one has learned for the Apple ecosystem. >> >> For a better definition look at WIkipedia: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_platform >> >> (*) we even have a very simple form of an AppStore (the GNUstep Software >> Index). >> >>> >>> How 'bout "think outside the box"? Catchy, well known and invites one to >>> take a look and not reject it flat out because it's not <insert arbitrary >>> personal reason here>. >> >> Because GNUstep is not a tool for "thinking". >> >> Neither is Apple, which uses the "think different" catchphrase, that's not >> the point. Thinking in this context refers to considering this >> runtime/development environment over other, possibly more conventional. It's >> meant as an invitation for developers who are new to GNUstep or Objective C. >> Or, say, Cocoa developers who never considered using anything outside >> Apple's tools. > > I like the walled garden allusion. Every iOS developer knows and feels that > and I know many would be happy to take "a GNUstep over that wall". > > "Thinking outside the box" is not specific enough. Every creative person > would claim that he/she is already doing that. So the first question would > be: what does GNUstep make differently? And there would be no answer. > > The key difference with these metaphors is that the "box" is seen as a > self-imposed limit of thinking. While the walls around the garden are created > by someone an impose limits that you wouldn't have. > So these pictures express some very different concepts. Breaking > self-limitation vs. breaking external limits. > > I think your proposal is too generic while the one with the walled garden is > better targeted at the GNUstep (and Cocoa) audience. > >>> >>> __ >>> "Besos, abrazos, confeti y aplausos" >>> Jaime "El Vikingo" Ramone >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Ivan Vučica <[email protected]> wrote: >>> +1. I like the catchphrase. >>> >>> >>> On Fri Dec 20 2013 at 10:03:48 PM, Graham Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> > On 20 Dec 2013, at 20:44, "Doc O'Leary" >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > Here's an attempt at a catch phrase: >>> > >>> > Step outside the walled garden. >>> >>> Heh. Nice :) >>> >>> Graham. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss-gnustep mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss-gnustep mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss-gnustep mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss-gnustep mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep
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