I meant "developers participating in GNUstep project, with commit rights" :-)
And I by no means meant "this is unnecessary"; I meant "there is a lack of motivation for someone to sit down and go through it properly". As David said, most core developers people use VMs. I personally sometimes reboot, as some OpenGL-related things are broken in VirtualBox. But noone has an actual day-to-day pressing need to make it work under OS X. I'd like it (to avoid the aforementioned reboots). I don't think anyone's that dismissive about supporting GNUstep-directly-under-OS X; but, it would take work. I personally would think focusing on getting upstream gnustep-base to be usable under Android is more interesting :-) On Sun Dec 22 2013 at 8:49:04 PM, Jamie Ramone <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually, he just said developers, which can mean "GNUstep maintainers" or > "developers who use GNUstep in their projects". True, there may not be much > need among the 1st category, but there is in the 2nd. That's what I > referring to when mentioning the dismissed requests for help. I guess we > could chalk it up as a misunderstanding on both ends :) > > > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM, David Chisnall < > [email protected]> wrote: > > On 22 Dec 2013, at 17:56, Jamie Ramone <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't think there's a lack of need. Just look at how many people have > been asking for help on this issue lately. Every time I see them the reply > is usually "why would you or anyone want to do that?" Testing some software > they're developing in Cocoa on GNUstep without the need of a VM as you said > is just one example. They could want to do that to make sure it'll work > properly on non-Mac systems. Or to move away from it. Or because of an > issue with proprietary software, whether ideologically or practically > inclined (e.g. licensing issue of some kind). In any case all those replies > DO suggests reluctance, which is why I said what I said. > > Ivan said a lack of need from GNUstep developers, and he's mostly right > because most of us develop in some VM or on native non-Mac platforms. > > I definitely agree that there's a need to gave GNUstep working on OS X, > however, to ease porting. I'd love it if we could ship and XCode plugin > that would let people test their code with OS X in XQuartz and then just > recompile on FreeBSD[1]. It would also be nice if we could bundle WINE and > provide an environment for testing Windows builds. Now that Apple is > shipping a recent clang, it's easy to cross compile, you just need a > sysroot with the relevant libraries / headers and a GNU ld for the target > platform. > > Obviously, for real deployment, you're going to want to set up a VM (or a > real machine) with the target platform and do QA there, but having to sync > the code between the Mac and the VM seems to be too much of a barrier for > some people. > > David > > [1] On Linux they'll need to also port to glibc most likely. > > >
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