Am 07.07.2014 um 18:41 schrieb Gregory Casamento: > Nikolaus, > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Am 07.07.2014 um 17:34 schrieb Gregory Casamento: > >> I'm wondering why this was marked as spam. > > I have received mails from other mailing lists which were also marked as spam > (even my own). So it might be some misevaluation by blacklisting data. I have > manually removed it from the subject so that it won't be copied again. >> > > > Okay, cool. >> I'll post it again if it was marked as such as it's very important to get >> the word out. >> >> I did mention your work on QuantumStep and the phone that you've built. > > Fine! Thanks. > > > You're very welcome. I think it will be good to re-examine the changes > made in QuantumStep to see how they can be of help. >> The issue IndiePhone is trying to solve is different than issue yours was >> trying to solve. > > The problem is that they are not open enough to really describe what they are > planning and doing. So it is difficult to comment that (without introducing > speculation). > > > I think saying they're not open enough is very premature given that the > entire focus of the project is on being as open as possible and because not > much has been clearly defined yet. :)
Well, then *open* is not the right wording... What I mean is that I can't find enough definitve information on the web to evaluate if they really do something differently or what really is planned. So far I see a lot of overlap with the OpenMoko/OpenPhoenux communities. And from the claim that indiephone *does* things differently than everyone before, I conclude/assume/hope that they must have a quite specific plan and a solution to those issues why OpenPhoenux doesn't "rule the free world" yet. One is obvoius (almost the same as for GNUstep vs. Cocoa): behind indiephone are people doing better marketing and visual design. > >> IndiePhone is trying to fix the issue of privacy on mobile devices. > In general the Openmoko and OpenPhoenux communities tried and still try to > solve the same issues, but we learned that it is such a huge problem to make > everything right from the beginning that one problem must be solved after the > other. This might make it look as if there is not the same goal. > > I'm sure that we can learn a lot from the efforts of both of these > communities. I think there is always the other way round: participate and bring forward communities that already exist :) I already have invited Aral to the OpenPhoenux.org community. And I would be happy to learn a lot from the indiephone initiative. That is why I ask so curiously as you have just met this team face to face (Aral asked me to come but it was much too short notice to even find a substitute). But IMHO this is a discussion going far beyond "discuss-GNUstep" and should be continued elsewhere. >> I will be looking at the optimizations that exist in QuantumStep for >> guidance as I move forward on this project. > > Ah, did they invite you to work for indiephone? > > Yes. Fine! BR, Nikolaus > > BR, > Nikolaus > > >> >> Greg >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Am 06.07.2014 um 09:39 schrieb Gregory Casamento <[email protected]>: >> >>> Hey guys. Just wanted to let you all know that the indie tech summit was a >>> success. GNUstep may play a large part in the indie phone. >> >> It is difficult to find out what they are really doing, so I hope that they >> got an understanding that QuantumSTEP is much better optimised for a phone >> GUI than standard GNUstep… >> >>> Please see http://ind.ie/phone >>> >>> I'll give you guys more details via postings here and on my blog. At the >>> moment I am on a bus back to Heathrow airport. >>> >>> Brighton is a fascinating town. It was a pleasure staying there. I can't >>> wait to visit England again. >> >> :) >> >> BR, >> Nikolaus >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Gregory Casamento >> Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant >> yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa >> (240)274-9630 (Cell) >> http://www.gnustep.org >> http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > > > > > -- > Gregory Casamento > Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant > yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa > (240)274-9630 (Cell) > http://www.gnustep.org > http://heronsperch.blogspot.com
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