Riccardo On Wednesday, February 17, 2016, Riccardo Mottola < [email protected] <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
> Gregory, > > Gregory Casamento wrote: > > We all know our best experience is on Linux and BSD. But we do get a lot >> of Windows users who get discouraged because of the lack of updates to our >> windows packages. >> > > Before delving down in discussions about what to change and fix or wait > for the new releases, it might be useful to just ask Adam if he can do a > respin with current releases or if there is an issues behind time and > will.It should be in any case an improvement of what is there now. > > Of course, without insulting him. Naturally. > > >> We are losing potential manpower by discouraging prospective users due to >> the poor experience we are giving them on Windows. This is not just due to >> the Windows theme but it is due to a number of factors. >> > > Did I ever say our windows experience is perfect? > On the contrary, citing the fact that I work with GNUstep on windows every > other day, I am quite informed about the issues! Right and the issue is. Not using some of these features is a really bad idea. Eating our own dogfood helps us fix things. I'm now considering taking out the file panel temporarily until I can implement accessory views. I think it's unfair to color his intentions in writing the original email >> based on his earlier response. I believe his intentions are good and >> should be taken as such. The issues in his video need to be addressed. >> > > I never said they shouldn't be addressed. In fact most of these issues are > known and a good number is still open or has only a partial fix. > > But is the video the best way to get attention to these issues? And most > importantly to get them solved? > > Not speaking for Thom here but I believe the intention is to illustrate a users experience without any internal knowledge of the project. His video effectively does that and explains a lot about how users react negatively to us. > Also, his intentions were colored to begin by calling stagnation and > complacency, spreading FUD. > But Richard wrote tings down best, how to contribute and the difference > between stagnation and slow progress. > > We do suffer from stagnation. We sometimes cling to things which are better left in the past and by doing so we sacrifice our future. We have a lot of optional dependencies because of this. If I am to put a Palette in gorm to support webview, for instance. Then the supporting frameworks must become a hard dependency. > > Riccardo > -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / OLC, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com http://ind.ie/phoenix/
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