Hi Greg, hi Damianos,

Well, Damianos points out that GNUstep is just a framework for developers. Do 
we all agree on that? As far as I know, opinions differ in the community, I for 
example think that we should have a reference implementation of a desktop and 
that our website should reflect that. That's my first, quick reaction to it. We 
should definitely discuss this further.

Kind regards,

        Lars

> Am 11.07.2024 um 11:45 schrieb Gregory Casamento <[email protected]>:
> 
> Lars,
> 
> I have informed him about the issues that we have identified and discussed in 
> the past.  Do you have any comments on what he has just posted?  
> 
> Also Damien was on the call with us a month or so ago.  So while he’s new to 
> the list he’s not new to the project.
> 
> I think his ideas deserve consideration. 
> 
> Yours,
> Gregory Casamento
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> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 04:40 [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> 
> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hi Damianos,
>> 
>> 
>> at first: Welcome to GNUstep!
>> 
>> I assume that you’re new to our mailing lists too, so you may not know that 
>> we had similar discussions before, the latest as recent as February of this 
>> year. I think (and hope) that you might be interested in getting yourself up 
>> to date on that topic, get informed about what already has been discussed.
>> 
>> Luckily we have an Archive of our list:
>> 
>> https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnustep/
>> 
>> You’ll find those discussions here:
>> 
>> https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnustep/2024-02/msg00013.html
>> 
>> https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnustep/2024-02/msg00035.html
>> 
>> https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnustep/2024-02/msg00046.html
>> 
>> https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/discuss-gnustep/2024-02/msg00048.html
>> 
>> those links show a threaded view, be sure not to miss the replies!
>> 
>> Happy reading!
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>>      Lars
>> 
>>> Am 10.07.2024 um 20:18 schrieb Damianos Sidiropoulos 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>> 
>>> Hello everybody. Just to quickly introduce myself, my name is Damian 
>>> Szidiropulosz.
>>> 
>>> Greg and I have been talking about things and the subject of the web site 
>>> came up. As I have some experience in that area, he asked me if I would 
>>> take a look at it and perhaps see about working on it. 
>>> 
>>> As you might imagine before any sort of work can be done, one should assess 
>>> what is already in place. I took a look at it and since one can't really 
>>> discuss a website without getting into general marketing topics, I started 
>>> to compile my own thoughts on the subject in the form of some slides. 
>>> Sometimes when there are visual elements involved I do this over simple 
>>> note taking. 
>>> 
>>> In any event, I shared the slides with Greg and he agreed with many of the 
>>> conclusions. He suggested I share it in the mailing list for feedback. The 
>>> link is below. Please take a look and share your thoughts.
>>> 
>>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1gg42lbgbGf05WUMUIh4UGG_DqIpOKet-H51en3ubOBM/edit?usp=sharing
>>> 
>>> Thanks and best regards,
>>> Damian
>> 

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