On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 16:25:11 +0300, Liam Proven wrote: > https://github.com/phkaeser/wlmaker/tree/main
FWIW, this has been packaged by Alex (member of the Debian GNUstep team) and it's waiting in Debian's NEW queue[1]. [1] https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/wlmaker_0.3-1.html (I am not sure why he decided to put in under the gnustep-team umbrella as it has nothing to do with GNUstep, but nevermind.) > The next version of Fedora will not include X.org by default. Ubuntu > will follow close behind. Fedora is not relevant to GNUstep, it only ships the core packages. If Ubuntu are planning to remove X, they'll have to slaughter a lot of packages that some people use, often daily. This will make Ubuntu even a more stripped-down version of Debian than it already is. > It's happening and it's going. I think you put too much weight in this Wayland stuff. I remember when that project was announced, it was like a revolution that was supposed to fix all of X's problems and to mark the beginning of the end of X. Nothing like that happened, it introduced some new problems and was only adopted by projects who sycophanitacally follow novelties. You should realize that things like X and TeX are ancient beasts (they predate GNU and the GNU Project is considered ancient, by software "timing standards") so I guess they will be still alive even after all of this list's subscribers are deceased. > It has long seemed to me that the GNUstep project and people are in > denial about what GNUstep is and its future. This is already having > negative repercussions for the project. Like you, I'm not a programmer so I try to avoid teaching the core GNUstep developers what they should do in the future with their project. They do the main job so it's up for them to decide, and that's how it should be. Like you, I don't like some directions the project is taking, and that's making me feel uneasy, but I guess I'll have to live with it.
