After disabling the pasteboard, the app now builds and links. However, only the miniwindow shows up, and it complains about not being able to find its resources. I don't know the GNUstep resource system well so some help would be appreciated.
On Fri, Apr 25, 2025, 10:10 Ethan C <echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Patrick, Greg! > > Hi everyone, > > I have written a GNUmakefile. The main obstacle is the pasteboard > functionality. > > GNUstep implements the OpenStep/pre-10.5 OSX pasteboard (see the GNUstep > docs > <https://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/Gui/Reference/NSPasteboard.html> > and the Apple docs > <https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CopyandPaste/CopyandPaste.html>); > I have no idea how it integrates with the system's clipboards. This > pasteboard contains a single item, which may have multiple representations. > > Modern macOS implements the post-10.6 OSX pasteboard (see the Apple docs > <https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/PasteboardGuide106/Introduction/Introduction.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40008099> > - "Pasteboard Concepts" is the most important part), and OpenOutliner > expects this to work. This pasteboard is a list of items (for example, if > you copy a selection of a webpage which contains an image it should put a > rich text and an image onto the pasteboard), each of which may have > multiple representations. Additionally, it starts using Uniform Type > Identifiers (UTIs) in order to refer to types rather than use the old > pasteboard type strings (at least in 10.6 those old strings were still > supported but were deprecated). > > It looks kind of complicated to implement the new pasteboard API, so maybe > we could try porting OpenOutliner to the old pasteboard API or temporarily > disabling all the features which need the pasteboard. Do any of you have > opinions on this? > > The Uniform Type Identifiers framework, part of LaunchServices, seems to > be implemented by Boron so we could probably do that. (However, that would > make gnustep-gui depend on Boron, which may or may not be wanted.) We might > want to implement in Boron the new Uniform Type Identifiers framework > <https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uniformtypeidentifiers?language=objc> > introduced in macOS 11 Big Sur, which is object-oriented (UTIs are of type > `UTType*` rather than `NSString*`, and it provides an Objective-C API). > Although OpenOutliner doesn't use the new UTI APIs, it would be useful to > implement in case newer apps need it, and regardless it seems to be a > cleaner API. > > Thanks, > > Ethan > On 4/25/25 08:01, Gregory Casamento wrote: > > Ethan, > > Mine is gcasa. I would like to help a little if I can. Also, expanding > libs-xcode, if it needs it, to handle it. > > Yours, GC > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 4:11 AM Patrick Cardona <patrick.card...@ik.me> > wrote: > >> On 2025-04-24 18:50:21 +0200 Ethan C <echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Ethan, >> >> > I started on the porting at https://github.com/ethanc8/OpenOutliner. >> >> Great! >> >> > You can >> > grep for "FIXME-GNUstep" for the things that don't work yet (the whole >> thing >> > doesn't compile yet). If you give me your GitHub username I can give >> you >> > commit access to my fork. >> >> Mine is: pcardona34 >> >> > >> > On 4/24/25 08:14, Patrick Cardona wrote: >> >> Hello Ethan, >> > >> >> Thanks for this mention. I shall look at this. >> > >> >> On 2025-04-24 04:57:47 +0200 Ethan C <echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >>> Hi everyone, >> > >> >>> David Chisnall recently mentioned on Lobsters >> >>> < >> https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_i2m53u> >> >> >>> a clone of OmniOutliner 3 he wrote in 2017, and said it would be >> easily >> >>> portable. Its source is on GitHub >> >>> <https://github.com/davidchisnall/OpenOutliner> if you want to look >> at it. >> >>> From the README it looks like a decently complex application with >> lots >> >>> of functionality, so it could be quite useful to port it. See also >> Liam >> >>> Proven's comment about why he uses outliners >> >>> < >> https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_owdlc8> >> >> >>> to get an idea of what outliner users would want. I might take up >> this at >> >>> some point, but I doubt it as I am quite busy and have too many side >> >>> projects already :) >> > >> >>> Thanks, >> > >> >>> Ethan Charoenpitaks >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Patrick Cardona - France >> MUA: GNUMail - Hardware: Raspberry Pi pi400 Model >> OS: Debian 12 (RPI-OS Lite) - Desktop: GSDE >> >> >> > > -- > Gregory Casamento > GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant > http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron > https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c > https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference-implementation > >
