I have it building, I submitted a PR, but I believe it is against David's repository. I will update it to be against yours. Right now it is loading the resources, but it's failing on the Main.storyboard. I believe the fault lies there. I will track that down as I am already working on that code as it is.
On Sun, Apr 27, 2025 at 12:39 PM Patrick Cardona <patrick.card...@ik.me> wrote: > On 2025-04-27 04:40:29 +0200 Ethan C <echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I am currently building aarch64 packages, I will update you if they are > > completed. You can check the progress on GitHub > > < > https://github.com/ethanc8/gnustep-forge-feedstocks/actions/runs/14687506985/job/41218202112>. > > > I don't have an aarch64 machine set up right now, so I would need you to > test > > the packages. > > Of course, Ethan, I shall do it. It is an amazing project, I think very > helpful about testing and developing. > > > > > On 4/26/25 20:02, Patrick Cardona wrote: > >> Hi Ethan, > > > >> Conda and manba seem to loook great, but as says your guide : > > > >>> Right now it only works on x86_64 glibc Linux. > >> And I am working on aarch64. So I did not follow the conda way. > > > >> But I tried on another env with Clang already there (within NEXTSPACE: > >> Debian clang version 14.0.6). > > > >> So I could build some parts and was stuck at this (I just copied the > end, > >> because all the errors are the same): > > > >> OOStyleRegistry.mm:348:7: note: candidate constructor (the implicit > copy > >> constructor) not viable: requires 1 argument, but 7 were provided > >> class number_style_attribute : public style_attribute > >> ^ > >> OOStyleRegistry.mm:348:7: note: candidate constructor (the implicit > move > >> constructor) not viable: requires 1 argument, but 7 were provided > >> 3 warnings and 13 errors generated. > >> gmake[3]: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/rules.make:575: > >> obj/OpenOutliner.obj/OOStyleRegistry.mm.o] Error 1 > >> gmake[2]: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/Instance/application.make:145: > >> internal-app-run-compile-submake] Error 2 > >> gmake[1]: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/Master/rules.make:297: > >> OpenOutliner.all.app.variables] Error 2 > >> make: *** [/Developer/Makefiles/Master/application.make:38: > internal-all] > >> Error > >> 2 > > > >> Obviously due to my clang version. > > > >> On 2025-04-26 04:03:51 +0200 Ethan C<echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>> Could you try my guide to installing GNUstep with Conda > >>> < > https://github.com/ethanc8/gnustep-forge-feedstocks/blob/master/guide.md>? > >>> Use the environment.yml in the OpenOutliner repo > >>> <https://github.com/ethanc8/OpenOutliner/blob/master/environment.yml> > >>> rather > >>> than the one in the guide. It should have everything you need, but > I've > >>> only > >>> tested it on my machine. > > > >>> Note that you always need to `mamba activate gnustep` in order to > enter the > >>> environment. This environment will contain Clang, the latest stable > >>> releases > >>> of the GNUstep core libraries as of December, glibc 2.34, libbsd, > zlib, and > >>> all the other dependencies. > > > >>> Thanks, > > > >>> Ethan > > > >>> On 4/25/25 17:42, Patrick Cardona wrote: > >>>> Hello Ethan and Greg, > >>>> Tried to build from the last commit of Ethan, but obviously, my > GNUstep > >>>> environment (GS-Desktop by Ondrej Florian, on Debian 12, aarch64) is > not > >>>> enough up to date: I am missing arc and the compiler complains: > >>>>> Compiling file AppDelegate.m ... > >>>>> gcc: error: unrecognized command-line option ‘-fobjc-arc’; did > >>>>> you > >>>>> mean ‘-fobjc-gc’? > >>>> I installed clang, but it did not fixed this. > >>>> Are you both working on FreeBSD ? > >>>> On 2025-04-25 21:18:59 +0200 Ethan C<echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> After adding all the resources and setting the main storyboard to > >>>>> Main.storyboard, it gives me an error saying that -[NSXMLDocument > >>>>> initWithData:options:error] is being called with data = nil. I have > just > >>>>> committed this change, and I can't debug further. > >>>>> On 4/25/25 13:13, Gregory Casamento wrote: > >>>>>> If you commit your changes (I presume you have) I'll take a look. > >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 2:04 PM Ethan C<echaroenpit...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> After disabling the pasteboard, the app now builds and > links. > >>>>>> However, only the miniwindow shows up, and it complains > about > >>>>>> not > >>>>>> being able to find its resources. I don't know the GNUstep > >>>>>> resource system well so some help would be appreciated. > >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025, 10:10 Ethan C< > echaroenpit...@gmail.com> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Thanks Patrick, Greg! > >>>>>> Hi everyone, > >>>>>> I have written a GNUmakefile. The main obstacle is the > >>>>>> pasteboard functionality. > >>>>>> GNUstep implements the OpenStep/pre-10.5 OSX > pasteboard (see > >>>>>> the GNUstep docs > >>>>>> < > https://www.gnustep.org/resources/documentation/Developer/Gui/Reference/NSPasteboard.html > > > >>>>>> and the Apple docs > >>>>>> < > https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/CopyandPaste/CopyandPaste.html > >); > >>>>>> I have no idea how it integrates with the system's > >>>>>> clipboards. > >>>>>> This pasteboard contains a single item, which may have > >>>>>> multiple representations. > >>>>>> Modern macOS implements the post-10.6 OSX pasteboard > (see > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> Apple docs > >>>>>> < > https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/PasteboardGuide106/Introduction/Introduction.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40008099 > > > >>>>>> - "Pasteboard Concepts" is the most important part), > and > >>>>>> OpenOutliner expects this to work. This pasteboard is > a list > >>>>>> of items (for example, if you copy a selection of a > webpage > >>>>>> which contains an image it should put a rich text and > an > >>>>>> image > >>>>>> onto the pasteboard), each of which may have multiple > >>>>>> representations. Additionally, it starts using Uniform > Type > >>>>>> Identifiers (UTIs) in order to refer to types rather > than > >>>>>> use > >>>>>> the old pasteboard type strings (at least in 10.6 > those old > >>>>>> strings were still supported but were deprecated). > >>>>>> It looks kind of complicated to implement the new > pasteboard > >>>>>> API, so maybe we could try porting OpenOutliner to the > old > >>>>>> pasteboard API or temporarily disabling all the > features > >>>>>> which > >>>>>> need the pasteboard. Do any of you have opinions on > this? > >>>>>> The Uniform Type Identifiers framework, part of > >>>>>> LaunchServices, seems to be implemented by Boron so we > could > >>>>>> probably do that. (However, that would make > gnustep-gui > >>>>>> depend > >>>>>> on Boron, which may or may not be wanted.) We might > want to > >>>>>> implement in Boron the new Uniform Type Identifiers > >>>>>> framework > >>>>>> < > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uniformtypeidentifiers?language=objc > > > >>>>>> introduced in macOS 11 Big Sur, which is > object-oriented > >>>>>> (UTIs > >>>>>> are of type `UTType*` rather than `NSString*`, and it > >>>>>> provides > >>>>>> an Objective-C API). Although OpenOutliner doesn't use > the > >>>>>> new > >>>>>> UTI APIs, it would be useful to implement in case > newer apps > >>>>>> need it, and regardless it seems to be a cleaner API. > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Ethan > >>>>>> On 4/25/25 08:01, Gregory Casamento wrote: > >>>>>>> Ethan, > >>>>>>> Mine is gcasa. I would like to help a little if I > can. > >>>>>>> Also, > >>>>>>> expanding libs-xcode, if it needs it, to handle it. > >>>>>>> Yours, GC > >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 4:11 AM Patrick Cardona > >>>>>>> <patrick.card...@ik.me> wrote: > >>>>>>> On 2025-04-24 18:50:21 +0200 Ethan C > >>>>>>> <echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> Hello Ethan, > >>>>>>> > I started on the porting at > >>>>>>> https://github.com/ethanc8/OpenOutliner. > >>>>>>> Great! > >>>>>>> > You can > >>>>>>> > grep for "FIXME-GNUstep" for the things that > don't > >>>>>>> work > >>>>>>> yet (the whole thing > >>>>>>> > doesn't compile yet). If you give me your GitHub > >>>>>>> username I can give you > >>>>>>> > commit access to my fork. > >>>>>>> Mine is: pcardona34 > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > On 4/24/25 08:14, Patrick Cardona wrote: > >>>>>>> >> Hello Ethan, > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> >> Thanks for this mention. I shall look at this. > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> >> On 2025-04-24 04:57:47 +0200 Ethan C > >>>>>>> <echaroenpit...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> >>> Hi everyone, > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> >>> David Chisnall recently mentioned on Lobsters > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> < > https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_i2m53u > > > >>>>>>> >>> a clone of OmniOutliner 3 he wrote in 2017, > and > >>>>>>> said > >>>>>>> it would be easily > >>>>>>> >>> portable. Its source is on GitHub > >>>>>>> >>><https://github.com/davidchisnall/OpenOutliner> > if > >>>>>>> you want to look at it. > >>>>>>> >>> From the README it looks like a decently > complex > >>>>>>> application with lots > >>>>>>> >>> of functionality, so it could be quite useful > to > >>>>>>> port > >>>>>>> it. See also Liam > >>>>>>> >>> Proven's comment about why he uses outliners > >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>>> < > https://lobste.rs/s/btjtkr/what_software_do_you_dream_about_do_not#c_owdlc8 > > > >>>>>>> >>> to get an idea of what outliner users would > want. I > >>>>>>> might take up this at > >>>>>>> >>> some point, but I doubt it as I am quite busy > and > >>>>>>> have too many side > >>>>>>> >>> projects already :) > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> >>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> >>> Ethan Charoenpitaks > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -- Patrick Cardona - France > >>>>>>> MUA: GNUMail - Hardware: Raspberry Pi pi400 Model > >>>>>>> OS: Debian 12 (RPI-OS Lite) - Desktop: GSDE > > > > > >>>>>>> -- Gregory Casamento > >>>>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal > Consultant > >>>>>>> http://www.gnustep.org - > http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > >>>>>>> https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a > >>>>>>> Patron > >>>>>>> https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c > >>>>>>> > https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference-implementation > > > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Gregory Casamento > >>>>>> GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant > >>>>>> http://www.gnustep.org -http://heronsperch.blogspot.com > >>>>>> https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron > >>>>>> https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c > >>>>>> > https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference-implementation > > > > -- > Patrick Cardona - France > MUA: GNUMail - Hardware: Raspberry Pi pi400 Model > OS: Debian 12 (RPI-OS Lite) - Desktop: GSDE > > > -- Gregory Casamento GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant http://www.gnustep.org - http://heronsperch.blogspot.com https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=352392 - Become a Patron https://www.openhub.net/languages/objective_c https://www.gofundme.com/f/cacao-linux-a-gnustep-reference-implementation
