Did you see the Milk theme? The point of it was mostly recreating:
https://www.maxrudberg.com/themes.html Ink is just the current theme that I
was running. I am still developing Ambrosia, I've just got some other apps
I'm developing at the same time. Rik.theme is also supported for a more
Mac-like theme. I might look at Cappucino at some point, the biggest issue
with Ambrosia right now is cleaning up the Wayland backend. It's still
missing a lot compared to X11.

On Mon, 6 Jul 2026 at 12:08, Gregory Casamento <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Colby,
>
> Interesting side note... I briefly worked with them.   Not open-sourcing
> Atlas was a huge mistake.  I'm glad that Cappuccino is still around.   One
> thing I had considered doing back then was creating a way to export to .cib
> (the format used by Atlas) so that people could create these files for the
> Cappuccino apps.   I'm not sure how prevalent Cappuccino is, so I can't
> confirm whether this is still worth pursuing.
>
> Yours, GC
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2026 at 8:57 PM Colby Russell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I thought the earlier Ambrosia screenshots showed promise.
>>
>> Some number of years ago, a startup called 280 North created two
>> noteworthy
>> applications: a slideshow creator and an Interface Builder clone called
>> Atlas.
>> (They also released the Cappuccino framework, which was basically a Cocoa
>> clone for browser-based apps.  Tracking down the Atlas demo videos are
>> well
>> worth the time.)
>>
>> They were eventually acquired, but the Atlas codebase unfortunately never
>> open-sourced, and then it disappeared.  However, Cappuccino is still
>> around
>> and has always been LGPL.
>>
>> Before the acquisition, they'd used some of their startup funding to
>> contract
>> with a professional design agency to create a theme for Cappuccino called
>> Aristo.
>>
>> - <https://www.cappuccino.dev/aristo/>
>> - <https://github.com/cappuccino/aristo>
>>
>> I heartily recommend that you take wholesale from Aristo and make it the
>> default theme for Ambrosia (even if you yourself don't find it to your
>> taste
>> and configure your personal machine to something more in line with the
>> screenshot you've included here).  One of the biggest factors in getting
>> people to be excited about a project like GNUStep/Ambrosia and a
>> willingness
>> to try it is providing an immediately attractive and accessible
>> out-of-the-box
>> experience.
>>
>> Xamarin also paid for an overhaul of MonoDevelop that resulted in a new
>> theme
>> before they were acquired Microsoft.  I suggest borrowing from that
>> work, too,
>> to fill in the gaps (e.g. use the original iconset that the MonoDevelop
>> theme
>> used before they switched to flat UI).
>>
>> --
>> Colby Russell
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Gregory Casamento
> GNUstep Lead Developer / Black Lotus, Principal Consultant
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