On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, X Technology Computer Resources wrote:

> 
> 
> "!Dr. Joe Baptista" wrote:
> > Maybe I should present this in simpler terms for you.  Think of namespace
> > as a service.  You can get you ol flat rate service via the United States
> > Government servers (ICANN) and see a limited namespace.  Or you can
> > upgrade to unlimited namespace at no cost.
> > 
> 
> Joe,
> 
> How do we know Tinc root DNS servers are *reliable* ?

The TINC and ORSC roots have served some 600,000 without
complaint.  That's a far cry from the estimated 200 plus million users
currently online - but it's not small pataoes either.  And all of it
without much marketing.  Not many DNS people have a clue with respect to
marketing.

> 
> ICANN root DNS servers are guranteed to be reliable as there are 13
> servers, in 13 geographically dispersed locations, where 3 are outside
> the U.S.

same thing with the ORSC - i'm not sure how many TINC has but it's 5
plus.  You also forgot to mention that the USG roots are consitently
failing.  Lot's of talk from time to time on nanog regarding that.

> End-user and ISPs want reliability, not instability. Or do you prefer,
> that ICANN be put out of business, and there be no root DNS at all.
> Remember, the Internet is wonderful because of ICANN.

There is nothing wonderful about ICANN.  If you believe that - then you in
the minority here.  Just look up the history and check some recent
newspaper clipping and you'll see their not loved.

The UDRP has to a large extent guranteed ICANN's fall.  ICANN serves its
masters in intellectual propert i.e. the WIPO.  It does not serve the
internet user.  

The biggest fallacy about ICANN is that it controls the root.  WRONG - it
is the user who controls what they see of the root, ISP's also can decide
what root they look at.  And as ICANN pisses off the masses ISP's are
changing and so are the users.

This sort of thing happens all the time.  In marketing we called it
"consumer choice" - and I can tell you - not much has changed in that
department.

We had a nice little phrase for it "serve a need - make a dollar".

cheers
Joe Baptista

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