The registry auto-renews, but if the domain is transfered after the expiry
date the registry automagically cancels the auto-renewal and processes the
transfer. The Registrar doesn't even have to do anything :)
Charles Daminato
TUCOWS Product Manager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 16 Jun 2001, Loren Stocker wrote:
> Hey Bob, Chuck, Anyone?
>
> Payment is an open question.
>
> What does happen here? Say NSI allows the transfer 30 days after due date --
> as they've ALWAYS allowed until now! Would NSI not submit for their
> not-to-exceed 45-day refund?
>
> I've transferred hundreds of domains around and after the due date. I've
> always got just ONE year renewal. NSI must have be getting refunds. Don't you
> think? Does anyone know "chapter and verse," here?
>
> Best, Loren
>
>
> "Bob's Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I wouldn't call this holding the domain hostage - OpenSRS does not allow
> > tranfers past day 0 either (we put the domain on hold). Not to say that
> > what NSI is doing is right (it's a rather abrupt change from their older
> > policy), but afaik they aren't doing anything illegal or anticompetitive
> > (if they were, then we would be as well *ick*)
>
> One of the few times, Charles, but on this occasion I don't agree with your
> sentiments - in my opinion allowing a transfer on a 'past due' SHOULD be
> compulsory - BUT, it is part of a bigger picture.
>
> For example, I don't know how what YOU have to pay for the domain works. IF
> you have to pay for it on exactly the due date and you've paid the $6, then
> it is reasonable to expect your $10 from the registrant before you let it
> go. If, as I suspect, you too are given some 'grace' time on your upstream
> payment - then even though a domain is past due no-one, in reality, owes
> anybody anything.
>
> Personally, I would like to see a more clear cut procedure all round.
>
> AS SOON as the domain goes 'past due' it gets 'temporarily' dropped from the
> root servers BUT doesn't become 'registerable' (by anyone else) again until
> 30 days after that point - which gives the previous registrant PLENTY of
> time to rectify their mistake and either pay their existing registrar, or
> transfer it. If they haven't done either of those within the 30 days, it is
> 'permanently' dropped and nobody owes anybody anything - so you have no
> excuse (ala Netsol) of hanging onto the domain for months, even years in
> some cases, after it has expired. Since the domain gets 'temporarily'
> dropped from the root servers, no-one can even claim the domain is getting a
> 'free' month at anyone else's expense.
>
> 30 days is plenty time after a domain gets dropped at rootserver level, to
> alert even the stupidest owners their domain is in jeopardy.
>
> Clear cut. Concise. No room for registrar games.
>
> Imho, this is the steering ICANN are paid to come up with but it's way too
> simple a solution for them - they need their 2 years of steering committees,
> sub-committees and committees looking into the problem to justify their
> existence.
>
> While I'm in rant mode, I might as well carry on:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 3:49 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Renewal - xxxxxx.COM Is Complete
> >
> > Dear Customer,
> >
> > Thank you for renewing your Internet identity with Network
> > Solutions. Your Web Address (domain name) renewal request is processed!
>
> Followed by
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:49 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [NIC-010607.8b2f] Change of Registrar - Domain Name Failed
> > Criteria/Denied
> >
> > Dear Bob Love:
> >
> > Because the domain name, xxxxxx.COM, did not meet the criteria
> > to change registrars, Network Solutions/Verisign has instructed
> > the Registry not to change the registrar.
> >
> > Specifically, the domain name didn't meet the criteria because:
> >
> > It is not in a paid status at Network Solutions/Verisign.
>
> Note the dates/times. It is f&^%wits like Netsol who most of the anger is
> aimed at, but the lack of proper ICANN direction and policy on the issue
> does affect ALL the registrars.
>
> Regards
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
