Thanks for the link.

The thing that *really* pisses me off about this is that I HAD the
domain already -- the listed contact handle and DNS servers were
mine, but the domain had expired two years ago.  The only reason I
lost it was that I didn't want to pay NetSol for the past two years
of time during which the domain was "inactive".

I figured that if NetSol thought I was going to register it again
with them, they'd give me useful advice, but the advice they gave
me has caused me to lose the domain *and* NetSol the registration.

NetSol is staffed by idiots, and I appear to be an idiot for giving
them the benefit of the doubt.

I will be sure never to make that mistake again.


On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 12:29:52PM +0700, DomainGuideBook.com wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> This article might answer some of your questions:
> 
> "Domain Goldrush III - Wild Wild West"
> http://www.ecommercebase.com/article.php/447
> 
> Generally good names last for milliseconds rather than seconds or minutes.
> And many ICANN registrars play an active role in grabbing the names for
> "partners".
> 
> Lee Hodgson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Chvostek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: William X. Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Another NSI screwup
> 
> 
> >
> > Hiya.
> >
> > I've been checking the whois.crsnic.net twice a day, but I've been
> > checking for availability via the API every half hour since my
> > initial NSI ticket, issued on June 15th.
> >
> > How are others dealing with this?  Should I be polling for a domain's
> > availability every few seconds instead of every half hour?  That seems
> > like an aweful waste of bandwidth....
> >
> > If this comes up again (as I'm sure it will), is the "right" course of
> > action to pay NSI their multiple years of registration for services not
> > rendered, and just call it the cost of doing business?  That too seems
> > like the wrong approach....
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 09:06:55PM -0700, William X. Walsh wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Paul,
> > >
> > > Many deleted domains only remain available for seconds.
> > >
> > > If you were counting on waiting for the domain to not show up in
> > > whois.crsnic.net as the sign it was available, that is probably why
> > > you missed it.  Whois is not realtime, and should never be used for
> > > availability, especially of deleted domains.
> > >
> > > The other party legitimately registered the name, so no, there is no
> > > recourse.
> > >
> > > Monday, July 02, 2001, 8:35:07 PM, Paul Chvostek wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Somehow, I didn't think it would happen to me.
> > >
> > > > I called NSI a month ago to find out why the domains pritel.com and
> > > > pritel.net were still in their database despite having expired in
> 1999.
> > > > I was told by a dutiful phone drone that she had marked both domains
> for
> > > > deletion, and as soon as they were gone, I could recreate them.
> > >
> > > > Last Friday, the NSI's whois record for pritel.com disappeared.  But
> the
> > > > record at whois.crsnic.net remained, as did the unavailability of the
> > > > domain.  I've been checking for their availability every half hour for
> > > > the past month, but suddently, this evening, whois.crsnic.net reported
> > > > a different registrar for pritel.com.  And the date of the
> registration
> > > > is June 30th, but at no point did the domain become available!  I
> > > > followed their instructions to the letter, making it clear that I
> would
> > > > be doing the re-registration with them once it was possible.
> > >
> > > > Has NetSol made me SOL?  IS there recourse in a case like this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards,
> > > William X Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Userfriendly.com Domains
> > > The most advanced domain lookup tool on the net
> > > DNS Services from $1.65/mo
> >
> > --
> >   Paul Chvostek                                             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   Operations / Development / Abuse / Whatever       vox: +1 416 598-0000
> >   IT Canada                                            http://www.it.ca/
> >
> 

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  Paul Chvostek                                             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Operations / Development / Abuse / Whatever       vox: +1 416 598-0000
  IT Canada                                            http://www.it.ca/

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