He was not patronage and he is well apprised of the issues.
Elliot Noss
Tucows Inc.
96 Mowat Ave., Toronto, Ontario
M6K 3M1
(416) 538-5494
----- Original Message -----
From: Marc Schneiders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: elliot noss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Jack Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: ICANNwatch article on .INFO
> Although the information below did really give me a new perspective on
> one of the two Canadian ICANN board members, I am afraid I do not see
> how it is relevant (except to shut up an impertinent poster). ICANN is
> not about cheap broadband access. If it were you would see me
> complaining all the time about how we need this in Europe.
>
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, at 10:30 [=GMT-0500], elliot noss wrote:
>
> > Actually couldn't be further from the truth. Ken Fockler was the
original
> > President of CAIP (Canadian Association of Internet Providers) and spent
> > years fighting Bellheads on behalf of ISPs with great success. CAIP
was/is
> > the most effective ISP lobbying group going and is the envy of the US
ISP
> > Industry Associations for its effectiveness.
> >
> > IMHO alot of the success of the Internet in Canada today (highest
broadband
> > penetration, near-highest penetration in total, 2nd lowest prices (to
> > Finland) for access) are a direct result of the early CAIP work and that
> > done by the more militant splinter group RISC (Responsible Internet
Service
> > Comapnies). RISC was sort of the radical wing of CAIP sent out for the
more
> > difficult and impolitic missions.
> >
> > Anyway, Ken always fought the good fight and still is as far as I can
tell.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Elliot Noss
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jack Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: elliot noss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 9:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: ICANNwatch article on .INFO
> >
> >
> > > LOL!! No doubt they're both patronage appointments (one for each
> > > official language) who have no concept of the issues at hand and
rubber
> > > stamp whatever the American representitives suggest is a good idea.
> > >
> > > In true Canadian fashion there's no doubt they probably blame former
> > > situations for the current woes taking none of the blame themselves.
:)
> > >
> > > Call me cynical... I'm going to Vegas next week baby! :)
> > >
> > > Jack
> > >
> > > elliot noss wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well worth noting that there are more Europeans than Americans on
the
> > ICANN
> > > > board (7 to 4 by my informal count). I proudly note there are also 2
> > > > Canadians to share the blame.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Elliot Noss
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Marc Schneiders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: Dennis Hisey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 3:34 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ICANNwatch article on .INFO
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, at 15:50 [=GMT-0400], Dennis Hisey wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Could someone please explain why there should even be a Sunrise
> > period.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe ICANN can? They approved this lottery and name claiming
> > > > > business. Or ask your Congress man. The US Government approved of
the
> > > > > whole thing as well. I am in Europe. I can do nothing against this
> > > > > cartel that ICANN is.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Marc Schneiders --- Venster DNS Solutions
> > > > > http://www.venster.nl/
> > > > > http://www.bijt.net/
> > > > >
> > > > > > (Besides the obvious excuse to charge more money.) We have a
UDRP
> > that
> > > > is
> > > > > > supposed to deal with these types of problems. All it has done
is
> > give
> > > > those
> > > > > > with extra cash to spend, and a love of gambling, an advantage
in
> > > > > > registering names that would hardly be considered trademarks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At least the .biz process only warns you of potential trouble
down
> > the
> > > > line,
> > > > > > it doesn't stop you from trying to register. That seems somewhat
> > fairer
> > > > for
> > > > > > everyone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dennis Hisey
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
http://www.icannwatch.com/article.php?sid=249&mode=thread&order=0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have to disagree with Russ on one point, I think having the
> > Sunrise
> > > > > > > registration block the landrush is a good thing. Contrast with
> > .BIZ
> > > > > > > where IP claims don't even notify landrush hopefuls so people
will
> > > > > > > buy tickets with no hope of getting the domain and will have
no
> > > > > > > remedy when they get clobbered with an IP claim after they
have
> > > > > > > already been parted from their money.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My 0.02
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -mark
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > mark jeftovic
> > > > > > > http://www.easydns.com
> > > > > > > http://mark.jeftovic.net
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> >
>
