I see why you would be upset. I have chosen not to do any pre regs at all because of all of the chat. Lucky I guess that I saw the light at the beginning. We are new to reselling and their has been too much talk in the news and in here. I was even told to cover our ass and sell them, but tell the pre-reg applicants (Make them understand) that we are charging a non-refundable fee for the process by an opensrs rep but we still didn't start the .names as we don't want to be involved in any court cases. Looks like NIS will get a whole lot of regs at the end of the .name due to all the SRS resellers opting out of the pre-regs now. NIS doesn't care if they are called to court as they have a bigger bank account...
Mike Allen, 4CheapDomains.Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.4CheapDomains.Net (812) 275-8425 - Office (815) 364-1278 - Fax ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spy OpenSRS Mail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "William X Walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:35 PM Subject: domain launches - follow up to "someone finally gets it" > William, > > I see this differently. Neulevel, had a plan in place that originally > accomplished two goals. > > 1. Leveled the playing field among all applicants. > 2. Gave them an added source of revenue from the plan. > > The problem was number 2. I won't bore the list members with a long > explanation here. The fact is random applications are good. > > Bill, I'm not directing my response at you. I'm more or less making general > commentary. Don't think this is personal. It's not. > > Bill and other RSP's, perhaps you were fortunate enough to not be named in > this lawsuit so sideline comments can be easy to make. However we were > subpoenaed by the courts of California in this case and I won't find any of > this amusing. Not to say you do. > > You mentioned Bill that first come first serve is best. Perhaps so, but an > initial launch process must still be amended. I would think everyone would > agree that some registrars are inherently evil. NSI would flood the server > with duplicate requests like snap names etc... or they would perform a > similar act that subverts the process of first come first serve. My > understanding is they did this during .info landrush and effectively blocked > other registrars from acquiring names. > > Lets call a spade a spade. Neulevel's hand is being forced. They and we > are being sued. Their attitude is lets get this over with. It is not that > they have "seen the light" no on had an epiphany at Neulevel because they > love customers. I don't see one ounce of sincerity in Jeffrey Neuman when > he says: > > ``Because there's so many creative solutions, those solutions become > part of the problem. And the best way, the tested way, would be > first-come, first-serve, that's what people are used to,'' Neuman > said. > > Allow me to translate. :) > What he is saying is that we had a great system that made us some extra cash > at start up, and some dumb ass with a friend for an attorney decided to sue > us since we didn't set up shop in a state friendly to random applications. > In order to avoid a costly lawsuit that he has cause for, we should just cut > our losses and move on. > > When I say Mr. Neuman is insincere this is not a dig. I mean he is as > frustrated with wasted time and money as I am. > > So Bill and others, I don't disagree that the process is broken still and > needs fixing. However a process that insures no one can cheat others means > it must protect us from registrars and registrants. > > Until then, each of us have no choice but to read every registries rules > carefully at launch and look for the loophole that enables you to get the > names you desire. Because if you don't, NSI and others certainly will. > > In addition, we did take preregistrations but would only take one > application per name. First come first serve. Only one person in our > database could request movies.biz for example. We intend to refund money, > but unlike others, we have pro-actively minimized the damage. > > I'll make one more comment. RSP's got royally fucked here. We ran a double > gauntlet on the random application process. First TUCOWS took our > applications randomly meaning for every 100 applications you took as an RSP, > only 10 made it into the round robin. Then you had your miniscule amount of > applications in the global registrar round robin to get through. Forgive my > candor, but that was bullshit. I don't see TUCOWS as having any choice but > in this case it became clear, being and RSP has its downside. I don't know > if this pissed anyone else off but I was steaming over this. We took > pre-registrations for a year and had a big load of applicants. In my > opinion a lot of people wasted money with us and would have done better to > go to a full blown accredited registrar. This is just one reason we are not > even thinking about .name. > > Regards, > Lars Hindsley > SpyProductions > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William X Walsh > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 1:43 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Someone finally gets it > > > > > > The news is at: > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011217/wr/tech_domains_biz_dc_2.html > > Basically Neulevel is admiting its "lottery" plan was not very well > thought out and is going to change its policy on those names, and run > a new selection mechanism for the names in question in February. > (this is not news to us on this list, thanks tou updates from Tucows > already, but some may find the story of interest anyway). > > What I am most pleased to see is Neulevel's Jeffrey Neuman say the > following: > > NeuLevel's Neuman said if he could do it all over again, he would set > up a much simpler registration scheme, even if it resulted in a flood > of applications > > ``Because there's so many creative solutions, those solutions become > part of the problem. And the best way, the tested way, would be > first-come, first-serve, that's what people are used to,'' Neuman > said. > > > Finally someone realizes that first come first served IS the most fair > manner for domain registrants. End of story. Maybe we can eliminate > any "sunrise" or "landrush" registration schemes in future tld roll > outs now. > > > -- > Best regards, > William X Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > --
